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The flaw in your theory is that the people that bought luxury homes were WEALTHY.  Obviously, they were NOT!  If they WERE, they could have paid off the mortgage.

People bought far more house than they could afford, based on the BFM principle--"Bigger Fool than Me"--the idea that they could flip the house for a profit.  That worked in an UP market--but not a DOWN market.

Just because someone is wealthy doesn't automatically mean they can pay off their house at any moment, especially after the market takes a dive.  Many of them followed the same bigger fool than me theory that everyone else did.  Or they just decided to give the place up when their house value went too far underwater.

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The flaw in your theory is that the people that bought luxury homes were WEALTHY.  Obviously, they were NOT!  If they WERE, they could have paid off the mortgage.

People bought far more house than they could afford, based on the BFM principle--"Bigger Fool than Me"--the idea that they could flip the house for a profit.  That worked in an UP market--but not a DOWN market.

Just because someone is wealthy doesn't automatically mean they can pay off their house at any moment, especially after the market takes a dive.  Many of them followed the same bigger fool than me theory that everyone else did.  Or they just decided to give the place up when their house value went too far underwater.

Aren't those the points I just made? :p


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the house I live in now I 100% financed 4 years ago and got a rate of 5.3875%.  I have good credit though so I am sure that helps.

Adjustable Rate Mortgage(ARM) or Fixed Rate?
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fixed.  I would never do an ARM unless normal interest rates were around 18% or something godawful like that where the only thing they could would be to go down.

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Why don't we just go with the fact that it is NOT gov't responsibility to make sure everyone has a home.  If you cannot afford something, you don't buy it!  It really isn't that difficult of a concept.
I don't care if you are D or an R, gov't job is to make sure the lending practices are fair and that someone is not getting screwed by unfair lending practices, it is NOT their damn job to put you in a house.

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    Exactly
And that theory should not be just limited to homes!


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Why don't we just go with the fact that it is NOT gov't responsibility to make sure everyone has a home.  If you cannot afford something, you don't buy it!  It really isn't that difficult of a concept.
I don't care if you are D or an R, gov't job is to make sure the lending practices are fair and that someone is not getting screwed by unfair lending practices, it is NOT their damn job to put you in a house.

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Legislation by Republicans
H. R. 3755: Zero Downpayment Act
Feb. 3, 2004

H. R. 1276: American Dream Downpayment Act
Oct. 1, 2003

A Home Of Your Own: Expanding Opportunities for All Americans
Jun. 1, 2002
http://www.americandreamdownpaymentassistance.com/white_house_docs.cfm

After these laws were passed by the republicans, people could get into a home for less than it cost to get an apartment.

I've seen someone get into a $100,000 house for $460 at closing. Thats frikin Nuts.. :crazy:
Kooks create kooky laws and make a killing doing it and frik up the country in the process..

Thank god they put an end to the majority of those laws in 2008..

First of all:

H.R. 3755 (Zero Downpayment Act of 2004)
        NEVER   BECAME  LAW :rockon:

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American Dream Downpayment Act or ADDI
 provided downpayment, closing cost, and rehabilitation assistance to eligible individuals.
The amount of ADDI assistance may not exceed $10,000
Heard of HUD :angel:


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When Bush signed the American Dream Downpayment Act on December 16, 2003, he declared,

One of the biggest hurdles to homeownership is getting money :dunce:  ... so today I’m honored to be here to sign a law that will help many low-income buyers to overcome that hurdle, and to achieve an important part of the American Dream.


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Zero down only works in the car business.. ??? Ask MADDOG how great Zero down is..

No way man.  Can you often times get funded with zero down? yes.  Should you? Absolutely not.  

You might as well hand them a shovel too.

Should never buy a car you can't afford.

A car you can't afford is one you cannot pay cash for.

The borrower is slave to the lender.

That damn Dave Ramsey.
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I LOVE Dave Ramsey :rockon:

Maybe the Gov't should read his books and take his classes and learn about spending habits.

DEBT-FREE is good :angel:

No longer a slave to the banks...my $$$ makes $$$ for me I no longer let the banks make $$$ off my $$$ :beer:


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