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Glad I Left 
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Posted on: Mar. 15 2010,10:58 pm |
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you are awesome mama. 
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After we screw up health care reform, let's take on the initiative of unscrewing the education system (gov't education)
Tacitus: (c. 56 AD-c. 117) "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates."
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Wareagle11B
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Posted on: Mar. 16 2010,12:03 am |
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QUOTE The tax is on aviation fuel, oil, parts, passenger emplanements, charter flights, aircraft registration, and cargo.
What he's saying Joe is that unlike the highways and bridge money that is collected and dropped into the general fund to be used however the politicians feel the Aviation fund is collected and mainly used for airport upkeep and renovations. Jim did mention how the state has "borrowed" some of that money and repaid it the first time but has yet to repay it from the last time.
Unless you are using an airline for travel, own an airplane, or have cargo transported on an airline you are not paying this tax on a daily basis. At least this money is being spent, for the most part, on it's intended target. The same cannot be said for a majority of the taxes that are collected.
Mama you get a big  well said.
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hymiebravo
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Posted on: Mar. 16 2010,1:23 am |
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(gljoefan @ Mar. 14 2010,5:05 pm)
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(Botto 82 @ Mar. 14 2010,2:33 pm)
QUOTE How does one explain all the centuries-old buildings in Europe and Asia still standing? The oldest part of the old high school would have been less than 90 years old, and the WPA core much less, never mind the 1968 additions.
Those that argue that the building was maintained poorly while it was still being used as a school better take a look at the maintenance overhead at the new school, to see if everything that can be done to prevent this again is being done, as I doubt the new facility can boast the engineering and craftsmanship of the old one.
A small adjustment to maintenance budgets now will avoid a big adjustment in building construction costs later. The worst part of the old high school buildings was the library addition, not old elementary building. But using your logic. Why has anyone ever tore down a building? It did not have anything to do with maintenance. I think the district has always done a great job with buildings. Hawthorne is a great example of that, but the same can be said of the other elementary schools. I don't know about what happened with Owatonna, but the Austin school was a great candidate for remodeling. But I am beginning to wonder about the airport expansion. I guess we should have just resurfaced the runway and called it good. Jim can claim "user fees" all he wants. They are tax dollars.
QUOTE The worst part of the old high school buildings was the library addition, not old elementary building. But using your logic. Why has anyone ever tore down a building?
The reasons that buildings get torn down are as varied as the amount of buildings that get destroyed. In the case of the old high school you had people that wanted something new and shiny. They had a predetermined fix in their minds.
Just like anything else when you decide that you don't like something then you look at it differently than you would if you liked it.
It wouldn't and didn't take much to convince all the people that wanted the shiny new thing that the existing structure was terrible and beyond repair.
I remember walking into the innards of the school there at the west end that went into like a smokestack area or something. This was when it was just prior to it's demise.
And I can remember standing there and the palpable feeling that I was standing next a very strong, sturdy, impressive structure. But according to all the negativity surrounding the place and how bad it was. You would have thought that it would have just fell over on it's own, by then.
Far from it. I wonder how long that place would have stood, had it been left there unattended even, vandals notwithstanding.
QUOTE It did not have anything to do with maintenance. I think the district has always done a great job with buildings. Hawthorne is a great example of that, but the same can be said of the other elementary schools.
That is probably a testament to the structure itself more than the way it is being maintained.
Look at photos of some of the structures that have been torn down in Albert Lea over the years. There were some pretty impressively constructed buildings among them. The likes of which nobody will probably every see duplicated.
QUOTE I don't know about what happened with Owatonna, but the Austin school was a great candidate for remodeling.
I'm sure if they would have really wanted to they could have adopted a shiny new attitude with those two as well.
I'm sure the buildings were probably plagued by a lot of old building issues. And it wasn't an easy task to complete the renovation.
Albert lea could have been considered a great candidate too if you had a different mindset. And things like controlling the spread of blight were taken into consideration.
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Botto 82
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Posted on: Mar. 16 2010,1:51 am |
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The old CHS facility was, for the most part, a sound series of structures. The 1961 math/science/library addition was a possible exception, and even it was built to a higher standard than either Freeborn or Mower counties' jails were and are, respectively.
Perhaps a High School closer to our current economic center is in order. Ahem!
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Botto 82
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Posted on: Mar. 16 2010,1:55 am |
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That was Central High's real demise - its unfortunate distance from all things North Bridge Avenue.
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Robert Hoffman
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Posted on: Mar. 16 2010,11:49 am |
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Grass!
THATS GREAT!
My aunt and uncle own Green Lea and despite that I suuuck at golf; I can relate to the video! 
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A guy is in a hole & is yelling for "help!" A doctor walks by & writes a prescription. A preist walks by & says a prayer. Then a FRIEND jumps in the hole with him & the guy yells at his friend "You're down here with me now!" The friend says "SURE, but Ive been down before and I know the ways out!"
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gljoefan
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Posted on: Mar. 16 2010,4:40 pm |
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I voted no the first time they tried to pass it, and was planning on doing the same until I took it upon my self to do a little research. There is no question that would could have remodeled the building. But the costs would have been over $10 million.
Austin High School is one building as I believe is the Owatonna Building. Making them much better candidates for a remodel.
Hymie, you are hitting the nail on the head when you say that Hawthorne has more to with the building than maintenance. I would say it takes both. But that is the point I was trying to make about the old High School.
The best part, and I think that is to what you refer, was the old Lincoln Elementary Building or the shop on the far east side. Those two sections, and Cap Emmons, could have been saved. There are would have been some heating issues, but those could have been worked out. The rest needed to come down and would have had to be replaced.
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Whistle Blower 2010
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Posted on: Mar. 17 2010,2:37 am |
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Green Lea had to do alot of changes due to the airport issues. Many years ago the owners wanted to build a snack shack between holes # 6 and # 16. They started the footings and then had to stop because the roof would violate the runway air space.
This is why you see that the course has to trim and top the old trees that run along side the # 16 fairway. 
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ICU812
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Posted on: Mar. 17 2010,2:50 pm |
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QUOTE Green Lea had to do alot of changes due to the airport issues.
QUOTE Established in 1949, Green Lea Golf Course boasts an 18 hole, par 72 course that will keep you coming back time after time.
QUOTE Albert Lea Airport: Activation date: 03/1942
I'm not saying, I'm just saying.
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