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Alfy Packer 
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Posted on: Mar. 09 2010,6:21 pm |
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Any more golf courses we can cut the trees down on?
O' that's right, sun stroke courses are the latest thing in Albert Lea. I guess there will be some shade at Green Lea when those 747 come in for landing.
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Liberal
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Posted on: Mar. 09 2010,6:29 pm |
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Who's the stupid one?  I think most people that read this can answer that one for you.
You can't come up with anything to debunk my claim that a longer runway means he can bring bigger planes here to store while he resells it, so you use sophomoric insults instead? I'm all for sophomoric insults when you have some substance to them, but you just more or less posted the equivalence of "I know you are, but what am I". 
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grassman
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Posted on: Mar. 10 2010,6:38 am |
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(canvasback @ Mar. 06 2010,10:49 am)
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(Alfy Packer @ Mar. 06 2010,8:52 am)
QUOTE Thank you Jim Hanson! The corporate jets are already circling over Albert Lea in a holding pattern. They are bringing thousands of high paying jobs, and, we are now officially "on the map".
I think those might be, ahem, buzzards.
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Mar. 10 2010,2:32 pm |
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Libby opines on a subject about which he knows nothing.  He equates "bigger" planes with the need for longer runways. The reality is--an airline jet like a 737 and a corporate jet need about the same amount of runway.
I COULD buy a jet and re-sell it. I've sold several in the past--but that was a different time. Jets are the WORST-performing aircraft to try to sell--the older jets are not fuel-efficient--Congress gave them a drubbing about their image (all the while buying over $500 MILLION dollars worth of jets for themselves). Companies still fly jets--but they are EXPENSIVE jets--far beyond what I could finance.
Older jets have fallen to rock-bottom prices.
Libbie ignores the obvious--again. The existing runway is long enough to handle nearly any corporate jet--you just can't GO anywhere with it!
I COULD buy an old jet--but who would want to inventory it?
So--if I HAVE sold jets before, and I HAVE flown jets in and out of Albert Lea, what good would a longer runway do me? 
TELL us, Libbie--how can I "make money" financing a multi-million dollar jet? 
I can take the money that it would take to finance ONE old jet, and buy any number of smaller planes to sell. That's called THE MARKETPLACE, Libbie. Unlike the government, the marketplace is flexible. I don't need any longer runways to do that--so try a different tack on how this "benefits me."
It has apparently escaped your short attention span--we've had any number of discussions on why the runway is being built--it's a 50 year-old plan, it adds a taxiway (something MOST airports have, but Albert Lea hasn't), it means that we don't have to buy houses and trim hundreds of trees, it replaces a 55-year-old facility and lighting, it is cheaper to replace than repair, we got 10-15 more years out of this facility than other communities, most of the cost comes either from the Federal Airport & Airways Trust Fund, or the "Stimulus"--not from local dollars, it allows for lower landing minimums, and perhaps most important--NOBODY BUILDS AIRPORTS OF LESS THAN 5000 FEET ANY MORE.
In trying to take it personal, Libbie, you've revealed yourself as someone that has some real personal issues yourself. You need to get away from the computer, and get outside in the real world more.
I hope you get better! 
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Pretzel Logic
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Posted on: Mar. 10 2010,3:28 pm |
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So if you guys are feudin' again, can we hear the details about the gag order now? And how something similar can be prevented in the future? 
Back on topic- that a few trees got cut down, is not so much for an expansion. I am with Mr Dangerfield on that, two biggest waste of real estate are golf courses and cemetaries. The hard left on plaza seemed not so well placed. I think it won't be to long before someone goes zinging off of it. That herd thinning thing.
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irisheyes
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Posted on: Mar. 10 2010,3:53 pm |
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Where is the airport currently with the new runway and everything? Is it completed now, or still in progress? I haven't been out on plaza or seen the airport for a while, so hadn't really thought much about it until this thread came up.
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Liberal
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Posted on: Mar. 10 2010,4:26 pm |
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QUOTE Libby opines on a subject about which he knows nothing. He equates "bigger" planes with the need for longer runways.
Okay, so instead of a bigger plane, then change those words to "a plane requiring a longer runway.
Actually I know quite a bit about your business, but my information came from you, so it comes from a less than reliable source.
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So if you guys are feudin' again, can we hear the details about the gag order now?
We're not feudin, I'm just pointing out his hypocrisy, and he's whining about getting called a hypocrite. He's apparently much more thin skinned then the people he's constantly critical of.
I had no part in that anti-courthouse group, but it's a good question and I've it asked myself from different people in that group and nobody can produce a "gag order" signed by any judge. The only thing close to a gag order was the judge telling them they would have to be willing to pay for any cost increases caused by their legal action.
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Alfy Packer
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Posted on: Mar. 10 2010,4:34 pm |
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I keep hearing about the new runway being such a good deal because the Federal Government is paying for so much of it. This out of the mouth of our own Rush Limbaugh quoting flyboy Jim. Doesn't sound too conservative to me, getting something we really didn't need just because the Federal Government was willing to foot a large portion of the tab.
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Mar. 10 2010,5:34 pm |
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QUOTE so instead of a bigger plane, then change those words to "a plane requiring a longer runway
Could anybody that speak "Liberal" take Chad aside and translate this? He must have missed it. QUOTE The reality is--an airline jet like a 737 and a corporate jet need about the same amount of runway.
Also this one QUOTE Libbie ignores the obvious--again. The existing runway is long enough to handle nearly any corporate jet--you just can't GO anywhere with it!
While you're at it--get the answer to the question of how I'm supposed to make any money off old airplanes that nobody wants any more--or how I'm supposed to finance NEW jets--why I couldn't just keep selling jet that have been operating here for years off the SAME runway (after all, unlike actual business airplanes, airplanes for sale don't have to GO anywhere from here!)or why I wouldn't take the same amount of money and inventory smaller planes that are easier to sell and DON'T require a longer runway.
Try to get the answers from him one at a time--any more than that, and he tends to ignore them. Translate the answers from Lib-speak into English, and get back to us. 
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