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Madd Max 
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Posted on: Oct. 15 2004,1:50 pm |
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I would like to commend Quincy for getting involved in the mayor’s race. We need to get your young people interested in Politics instead of driving them away. Good Luck Quincy.
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repdan
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Posted on: Oct. 15 2004,4:17 pm |
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Maxx, bad news for you, we agree. We need more people to get involved at all levels.
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carpe ductem.....remember we're all in this together..I'm pull'n for you.
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hoosier
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Posted on: Oct. 15 2004,5:05 pm |
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Repdan, is that Red Green? LOL, for once we agree.
Like him or not, Jesse Ventura should be a lesson to all the young people that when they get involved they can make a difference, and maybe even influence the outcome of an election.
They say they are not heard, but yet they dont vote.
Nothing against the AARP crowd here, but the only reason they have the influence they do is because seniors vote in a higher percentage than any other age group.
Young people, get out and vote. You want to be heard? Become a power in the elections, its the only way.
Repdan, you may know this figure better than me, please tell me if I am wrong, but in this country, dont less people vote, than the ones that dont vote?
Less than 50 percent? Very sad for the leader of democracy in the world.
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DrBombay
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Posted on: Oct. 15 2004,7:42 pm |
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You are correct, less than 50 percent. Sad isn't it.  I've said before that I hope they are implementing heavy duty campaign finance rules in Iraq along with the Democracy lesson. LOL, or they're screwed before they get started.
Simple, people don't vote because they can't compete with Special Interest money that runs our country!
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Oct. 15 2004,8:30 pm |
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I disagree--campaign contributions may buy the ear of the candidates, but money can't buy votes from the electorate--it can only run issue ads in an attempt to influence voters. If more people became informed on the issues and voted, the effect of the "special interests" (defined as "anybody but the candidate the individual speaking supports") would be diminished.
Campaign-finance has proven to be a disaster--even Mr. Kerry says it needs changing (obviously, he was FOR it before he was AGAINST this bill, too!)  It has given us "527's"--ways to channel money into campaigns--and led to outside billionairs like Mr. Soros (a Hungarian citizen, and admitted felon in France) giving in excess of $20,000,000 to influence U.S. elections--while prohibiting "special interests" from the NRA to the Sierra Club from even running ads for their members.
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hoosier
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Posted on: Oct. 15 2004,10:19 pm |
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Damn, I agree again Jim, you are right about the special interests.
You ever notice, the groups that vote get what they want?
Until there are more of us voting, special interests will be the easy way to get elected.
Its why they get elected time and time again, but never seem to do anything, lol.
I would rather see the governement,(tax payers) pay for the campaigns. We give them millions anyway. Give them all the same, no outside money, NONE.
Lets see how they can manage their money.
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The power of accurate obsvervation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it.
George Bernard Shaw
The devil begins with froth on the lips of an angel entering into battle for a holy and just cause. Grigory Pomerants
We have crossed the boundary that lies between Republic and Empire. Garet Garrett
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Jesus Juice
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Posted on: Oct. 15 2004,11:03 pm |
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lots of agreeing and loving in here,cute ...
weird... 
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I love everyone that much also.
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hoosier
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Posted on: Oct. 15 2004,11:17 pm |
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LOL, you dont understand, Outside of local government, Jim and I agree on almost nothing. Its just nicer to agree on something than to argue.
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The power of accurate obsvervation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it.
George Bernard Shaw
The devil begins with froth on the lips of an angel entering into battle for a holy and just cause. Grigory Pomerants
We have crossed the boundary that lies between Republic and Empire. Garet Garrett
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p8ntball_junky
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Posted on: Oct. 16 2004,1:45 am |
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Well, to help out Mr. Borland first, definetly get something for the youths/young adults. A race track is a good idea but the raceway up in Brainerd is out in the boonies around gas stations and bars which is actually a really good area for a race track because lets face it, racers need gas(both kinds ) and beer. And since it's out in the boonies, it doesn't make as much noise.
A rec center is probably even a better idea for AL but there are definetly gonna have to be some form of law enforcement there. Going to ALHS and being here for years. There are always drugs and fights in this town. And don't say, oh......there's not a lot of that with kids in this town, because there are. It's more of an underground thing.
One other thing that I KNOW no one would ever think of is a paintball field. I'm telling you, paintball is a HUGE sport among the youth and young adults. I've talked to numerous kids, both in IA and MN, that they would play more paintball if there was a field and store closer than a hour an a half away in either direction.
As for the job scene, bring in more jobs that are modern. Computer businesses, music stores(like home theater systems, etc.) and the like. Because lets face it, no kid that lives in AL wants to be working at a factory all his life just to end up with 20 dollars in his back pocket for a whole month.
Ok, now on to something that all of you are complaining about. Young people not voting. I'm voting this year no matter what. I would have voted at the local level just recently but the reason I didn't is because I didn't know who to vote for. If I would have been able to know who was running and what they wanted to do for AL, I would have. If you older people out would let the younger people know where to find information on each candidate that is easily accessible to them, they might just vote. Another thing as well, ask them if they know what the current politican who is running for that position again what they've done for this area or their area and what they plan on doing to improve it. For example, sorry to pick on you repdan but you're the only state poly I know that is native to this area, I wouldn't have voted for repdan at all because I have no idea what he's even ATTEMPTED at trying to do to improve this area. So all you older people out there, help us younger people out.......pretty please??? 
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hoosier
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Posted on: Oct. 16 2004,8:06 am |
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p8ntball_junky, glad to see your interest in the political process and voting.
But all the info you seek on a candidate is available for all, in the same places. Watch the local news, read the local papers.
But in my opinion, you are one step ahead of the game, you came to the Albert Lea Forum to get some info.
Listen to many people, not just a few, decide what issues are most important to you.
And vote for a person because you think they will represent the people, all the people, regardless of party affiliation.
Some here will probably disagree with this last piece of advice, but dont pay attention to the parties, they are both propaganda machines made to mislead the voters into voting for their candidate. Not always with your best interest in mind.
And speaking of parties, dont ever hate the other party like what is happeneing today. Once you start down that partison slope, its hard to take a step back and look at things objectivly.
I agree, a paintball course would be great for the younger people. I hear they had a good crowd at the armory last weekend for some paintballin. My son went, he had a blast, and he satyed out of trouble for the whole day.
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The power of accurate obsvervation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it.
George Bernard Shaw
The devil begins with froth on the lips of an angel entering into battle for a holy and just cause. Grigory Pomerants
We have crossed the boundary that lies between Republic and Empire. Garet Garrett
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