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gary grobowski 
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Posted on: Feb. 13 2008,10:40 pm |
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Nice attempt at spin. But you can't have it both ways.
You are right that the district leans DFL, using your own number 55% DFL. The seat was open and the race was really really close. So either Matt did a better job and out performed the index or Robin did a bad job and underperformed.
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Replicant
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Posted on: Feb. 14 2008,8:01 am |
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(gary grobowski @ Feb. 13 2008,10:40 pm)
QUOTE Nice attempt at spin. But you can't have it both ways.
You are right that the district leans DFL, using your own number 55% DFL. The seat was open and the race was really really close. So either Matt did a better job and out performed the index or Robin did a bad job and underperformed.
Excellent comeback Gary, you nailed it. However, the end result is, she won. Barely. This time around, she will have incumbency on her side. But as Gil Gutknecht will tell you, that is no guarantee.
It struck me later that USMCR originally referred to Brown as R. Benson. Old age, or has she made that little of an impression that her own supporters can't remember her name? Hmmm.
Maybe I am comparing apples and oranges again. Where is the head judge of the apples to oranges Olympics (Irisheyes) when you need him?
However, in my comparisons to other races I will put it in the broader context of one politician vetting another. Politicians endorsing others, party chairs characterizing the opposing party's candidate. It's all fair in politics.
In this case, it's a brilliant strategy. Benda has nothing to lose in bringing up Brown's experience now. He can take the heat, but has no votes to lose. It has now become an issue, and is being discussed, before she even has a real opponent.
Note that I didn't bring it up. USMCR fell right into the trap that Benda cleverly laid and made it an issue here. 
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Madd Max
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Posted on: Feb. 14 2008,8:28 am |
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All I see, is here again we have Matt Benda using the power of the press to whine in public. One has to wonder if he had Dan Dorman sitting next to him helping him write his letter to the editor. Just more sour grapes
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usmcr
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Posted on: Feb. 14 2008,8:55 am |
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Yes! i made a mistake & take full resonability for it. i corrected the mistake a soon as it was brought to my attention. inxperienced - the one who is inexperienced is benda for not knowing how to loose gracefully! neither one of them had any legislative experience yet he choose to fault her after she had defeated him! in my estimation he is still smarting over the defeat. if you feel that making a issue of it here is a big deal, then your sights are set a little to low! i will go on record here & project robin brown to be the winner again, with experience this time.
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ICU812
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Posted on: Feb. 14 2008,9:02 am |
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As far as that race went, whoever had a D behind their name was going to win it.
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scorenix
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Posted on: Feb. 14 2008,12:00 pm |
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(Replicant @ Feb. 14 2008,8:01 am)
QUOTE However, in my comparisons to other races I will put it in the broader context of one politician vetting another. Politicians endorsing others, party chairs characterizing the opposing party's candidate. It's all fair in politics. In this case, it's a brilliant strategy. Benda has nothing to lose in bringing up Brown's experience now. He can take the heat, but has no votes to lose. It has now become an issue, and is being discussed, before she even has a real opponent. USMCR fell right into the trap that Benda cleverly laid and made it an issue here.
So then Benda's letter to the editor, and the article, really had nothing to do with Benda deciding not to run against Brown, that was merely the excuse to politically posture the Republican party. You give Benda too much credit (much as you did his predecessor).
And that takes the luster off Benda even more. It's sad really. And it wasn't spin before. It's the demographics. Which is why, with incumbency behind her, she will sweep to victory this year.
Unless of course, the whining continues. There's an interesting battle going on in Freeborn County. The Republicans have lost their control, the DFL have gained control. It'll be interesting to watch how they now exert it.
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wildjim
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Posted on: Feb. 14 2008,6:48 pm |
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That does not make sense. Are you saying if the whinning continues she will lose?
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scorenix
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Posted on: Feb. 14 2008,7:21 pm |
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(wildjim @ Feb. 14 2008,6:48 pm)
QUOTE That does not make sense. Are you saying if the whinning continues she will lose?
No, sorry, I didn't finish. If the whining escalates, she'll trounce her opponent. It can motivate a campaign. On caucus night, it surely was brought up more than once. And it did serve to rally.
I don't know who advised Benda to bring DFL literature to the dump and make it a media circus, but it backfired. He marginalized the issue by performing at the landfill. His argument was very effective. The politics of personal destruction. Goes on in both parties. And its sad. If he had had to choose a spot, a backdrop like city hall, the library, or St. Paul would have given credence to his case. I really thought, then, Robin Brown was in the race. Plus, I never had the feeling that Benda took it seriously he could lose the election. Close, maybe, but certainly not lose it. Robin Brown ran a very effective campaign. Momentum, demographics and politics certainly played to Robin Brown's side, being unknown, outside Albert Lea certainly hurt her. It won't this time.
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wildjim
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Posted on: Feb. 14 2008,9:36 pm |
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I think she will win again but is average at best. If Benda did as bad as you say it should not have been close. Or are you saying Benda lost it and she did not win it?
Did you think they would show up at caucus and praise Benda? Most hard core caucus goers don't see much past the R or the D.
Think about the two letters to the editor this past week. Tom Schlaak for the R's and Dresher for the Dems. I can't even read them anymore.
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Ouch! Gotta love that one.