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Posted on: Sep. 10 2003,4:34 pm |
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Anyway Tiger, we are getting way off topic here, LOL. Back to the point I was trying to make, my guess is that at least 8 out of 10 kids that come out of AL high, will have to wear some type of uniform when they enter the work force. Or they will have to abide by some sort of dress code. I was trying to say that if we are really preparing them for the real world in HS, then maybe making them wear uniforms isnt so bad of an idea. At the very least, this dress code will prepare them, just the fact that most will have to spend their adult live living by rules they might not like. They better get used to it is all Im saying. If this dress code has them upset, they got a long way to go to be ready for what awaits them after graduation.
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Tiger
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Posted on: Sep. 10 2003,5:29 pm |
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I don't think the issue with the dress code is with the HS students. My cousin and her girlfriends still find ways of dressing in style. They are just not allowed to wear skimpy tank tops or show their bellies, which I think is fine. You can express yourself without looking like trash. I think people think the middle school dress code is the problem. there again I think uniforms are ok at this age. as I said in a previous post, this is the ae where the taunting and teasing can get vicious. And I also think Spidey might be onto something with adding fun color and maybe even logos to the uniforms if they are going to be forced to wear them. HS is supposed to be fun and exciting and full of change. It shouldn't feel like a prison. Don't take all their freedom away.
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hoosier
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Posted on: Sep. 11 2003,8:02 am |
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Tiger , I agree. I dont have any clue what a girls uniform might look like, but the boys could be something like kakis and as AL HS. polo shirt, in red, white, or blue. One thing we have to think about though when we talk about mandatory uniforms, is that not all parents could afford it. I even seen it at the catholic school, the school had to help some families with the purchase of uniforms. But anyway, this is a dress code issue, not uniforms, we will worry about that when and if that time comes.
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Posted on: Sep. 15 2003,8:50 pm |
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Being a recent HS graduate (class of '97) who has been employed at a professional job in an office environment for 5 years now, I have heard talk of dress codes in schools since I started HS in '93. At that time I saw nothing wrong with the way the majority of students dressed but things were already being cracked down on. The elimination of wearing a simple baseball-type cap inside the building, wearing a coat in the halls during the school day and other items such as the length of skirts worn by the female students.
I realize that the baseball cap issue can be regarded as a form of gang prevention (a small problem in the outstate areas, but none the less, still a problem), the coat issue is one of security as it can be used to easily conceal a weapon, and of course, the length of a skirt can be distracting.
It seems that when students go on to college, they are given those freedoms. Living just minutes from the U of M, I see all types of dress and it is accepted. College students are given these freedoms and being beyond the rules of their parents I feel that they deserve these freedoms.
Common sense will dictate their dress once they are done with college and will directly correlate to what type of job they get. However, I am still able to get by wearing jeans and a polo-type 2 or 3 button shirt most days and even - oh my god - a t-shirt sometimes.
As for HS students, common sense tells them what is acceptable. Most HS students feel the need to belong to a certain group or clique. They dress to fit into that particular group and most times that dress is acceptable. Schools that I know of already had policies in place in the mid-nineties regarding offensive t-shirts and other innapropriate articles. Talk of uniforms in schools just goes against our already dying freedoms. I can just imagine our half-assed, slow witted, possibly mildly retarded president Bush telling school-age students that uniforms in school are to prevent terrorism and part of his so-called patriot act. Until then, and even after then, teens will continue to dress comfortably, after all, even tucking in a shirt for long periods of time is uncomfortable when the majority of the school day is spent sitting. Students will use common sense and those who don't are usually dealt with in one way or another.
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Ole1kanobe
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Posted on: Sep. 15 2003,9:37 pm |
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I know in AHS, they had dress codes for years, although enforcing them was a different matter. They tried the thing with turning an offensive t-shirt inside-out, but then some students said that they were being made to 'stick out', so instead the school would send them home (if they lived locally) to change which lead to the child sometimes not coming back at all. They also tried having the parents pick their child up and bring them back, but some of the dual income household parents didn't like that because they had to take time off of work to make sure their child made it back to school.
It would be easy to say that parents should have taught their children better or something, but back in the fifth grade I rode bike to school with the neighbor boy who's mother did check what he wore to school every morning, but he would always have a shirt in his backpack that he would change into about a block away from home (both going to school and coming home from school). the nice little Polo shirt would be replaced with a Metallica t-shirt; why? So he would 'fit in' and be 'cool' when he was at school.
The pressures of peer's (I am guessing) has only gotten stronger over the years.
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minnow
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Posted on: Sep. 15 2003,10:19 pm |
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I wear Adidas and Sean John velvet sweat suits and da bling bling on the side....Soprano-ish. I'll dress anyway I like in my own office.
How dare they insist teens dress like old foggies...they have the whole rest of their lives to do that! 
You're only a teen once and stupid administrators need to stop micro managing kids fashion choices. What are they trying to prove anyhow....it's typical Albert Lea.....stoopidity.
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Posted on: Sep. 15 2003,10:33 pm |
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ok...now I just have to know where this business of yours is. Just give me the town or city. I would love to see you leave the office ............nothing like a man in a velvet sweat suit to set the old heart to beating quicker. .....and a hat on the side?.....hey.................are you black?....I may have seen you in the casino in the cities.......no wait....you are younger than that. Oh...I don't think they want them to dress like old foggies, just not like hookers and pimps. There are some clothes that just are not acceptable in public and especially in a learning environment.
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minnow
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Posted on: Sep. 15 2003,10:58 pm |
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Bull...the real world is full of distractions. We help children the most by helping them succeed in spite of these distractions....not by making distractions, subjective in nature, against the rules. This environment rewards followers and arse kissers...not individualism, creativity and leadership.
It creates a world where guys like Ron Gabrielsen succeeds and guys like Jim Hanson get gagged. That's not what we want.
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Trent
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Posted on: Sep. 16 2003,2:34 am |
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Here is an interesting idea... If a student didn't want to go along with the dress code, they could go to school naked. There is nothing that states how much skin needs to be covered. I do not advocate any student doing so, but this is not against the dress code as far as I know. There would be no bra strap, thong strap, or other showing. All they would need would be a band-aid over their belly-button.
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Dustin Petersen
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Posted on: Sep. 16 2003,11:18 am |
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One time when I was in school, my friends and I all bought these really cool sweatshirts with monsters on them. We were all supposed to wear them to school, but I was the only one who got away with it. Then Miss Landers sent me home to change, and I was the only one who got in trouble.
Oh wait, never mind -- I guess that was on an episode of "Leave It To Beaver."
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