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Expatriate 
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Posted on: Apr. 18 2006,9:01 am |
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Could this be Albert lea's first gated community? The popularity of gated communities is on the rise nationwide, enclaves of luxury homes, electronic gates and 24-hour security guards to maintain the underclass apartheid system. "Country Club Estates"...
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Apr. 18 2006,10:03 am |
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Whether the Country Club remains a golf course, or a housing development is not our decision to make. The business background on the Country Club isn't good--it has gone through a succession of owners, ALL of which have lost money. It has gone through several "reorganizations"--ALL of which have not been successful. In this case, there was a VERY willing seller, and a willing buyer.
It's not up to us to decide who can build where, or whether there are "too many" homes being built.
Unless people think that the City should acquire the property as a municipal course, or unless there is someone that will take the developer out so that it can remain a course, we should wish the developer "good luck" and "thanks for investing in Albert Lea", and do everything we can to make it successful. Let "the invisible hand of Adam Smith"--(free enterprise) do its job.
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usmcr
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Posted on: Apr. 18 2006,10:26 am |
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Does anyone remember just how far north the old dump site extended from the edgewater park road? what is the status of the old dump site, is it a toxic dump site as previously stated? in the newspaper article it stated about lakeside lots, about all they will have is some edgewater bay views. it looks like larryland will have some viable competition! the downside of this is that green lea golf course will not have any competition! it will be interesting to see if the city council gets behind this project or will they throw up all sorts of obstacles for the developer. it seems they went the extra mile for the tiger hills developer! losing the green space is a bummer but the prospect of larger tax base is encouraging.
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Apr. 18 2006,1:19 pm |
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USMCR--the developers were concerned about contaminants on the property due to the old dump--so had test holes dug. I talked to one of the people that viewed the holes--nothing from the old dump--no ground water contamination, no methane.
I thought that the fact that they bothered to check this out before purchasing showed that they were concerned and willing to go the extra mile to assure the property was safe.
Lakeside lots--as I understand it, the lots closest to Lakewood--up to the present property entrance--would be the first developed, because of the ready access to City utilities. First units would be town homes and private homes. Green space--Plans call for 3 ponds on the property--the property will be developed further back as utilities become available.
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Botto 82
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Posted on: Apr. 18 2006,1:26 pm |
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I think it speaks volumes about Albert Lea's economy that it can't support a country club. Austin, a similarly-sized town to the east, has no such problem.
Is this another symptom of Paul Sparks' expert management of A.L.'s development, or lack thereof?
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Apr. 18 2006,3:39 pm |
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Austin didn't do well on the country club, either. Hormel had to step in and bail them out.
I know 3 people that have owned "Country Club" type courses. Every one of them not only says they LOST money, but that they don't know anybody that MAKES money. I get the feeling from talking to these people that owning a golf course is kind of like being a farmer--you don't make any money until you sell.
Arrowhead--recently purchased by Diamond Jo--reputedly will not open this summer--but will have trap & skeet shooting, as well as hunting this fall.
Green Lea seems to make it--but it isn't a "Country Club" course.
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GEOKARJO
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Posted on: Apr. 18 2006,3:51 pm |
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took a double take out on the interstate
When I saw her makin' eyes at me
So I followed her down - the clubhouse drive
Past the pool on the 18th green
In the parkin' lot...I said it's mighty hot
Maybe I could buy you a beer
She said I'm glad you asked...but I'll have to pass
Cause only members are allowed in here...and I said
Well I'm a member of a country club
Country music is what I love
I drive an old Ford pick-up truck
I do my drink-in from a dixie cup
Yea I'm a bona-fide dancin' fool
I shoot a mighty mean game of pool
At any honky-tonk roadside pub
I'm a member of a country club
You look so invitin'...thought it might be excitin'
For a woman with a limousine
To go bouncin around...in a beat up truck
With a man...in wore out jeans
It's five o'clock before Friday night
Here's where the fun begins
So don't worry 'bout your reputation
Cause you can tell all your friends
Well I'm a member of a country club
Country music is what I love
I drive an old Ford pick-up truck
I do my drink-in from a dixie cup
Yea I'm a bona-fide dancin' fool
I shoot a mighty mean game of pool
At any honky-tonk roadside pub
I'm a member of a country club
Well I'm a member of a country club
Country music is what I love
I drive an old Ford pick-up truck
I do my drink-in from a dixie cup
Yea I'm a bona-fide dancin' fool
I shoot a mighty mean game of pool
At any honky-tonk roadside pub
I'm a member of a country club
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Alfy Packer
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Posted on: Apr. 18 2006,5:37 pm |
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Jim is right about the Austin Country Club. After the Albert Lea Club ran through all the stockholders equity and was asking the members to belly up again, some people from town thought that if they had to invest in a club, why not a stable one. Well in Austin the special assessments became more than anyone expected. The club manager was fired and still people were dropping their memberships until Hormel saw the writing on the wall and took care of the members special assessments. I was already out of there by the time Hormel came to the rescue, but I can't see how that club house can be anything but a continuing problem for the members if Hormel weren't footing part of the bill. Don't know that they still are doing that but those are very fancy digs for a hack like me.
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number 1 fan
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Posted on: Apr. 18 2006,7:09 pm |
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And I agree 100% with Jim too. The Country Club has lost money to each of its past 3 or 4 owners. Now I hear that the Owatonna Country Club is in some trouble too. I would like the city to step in and purchase the course. Knock down the existing dumpy building before it falls on its own and make it a public course. Green Lea has done well as a public course. I remember when Jack Greengo was running it. Green Lea has always been my favorite place to play but now with Arrowhead closing and the Club on the verge of closing it will be tough to get a tee time. Lots of leagues at Green Lea too.
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Liberal
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Posted on: Apr. 19 2006,7:52 am |
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Wasn't sure which thread to post this in.
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All Reported Dates of Birth10/26/1982
All Known Aliases/Alternate SpellingsLafavre, Dustin Lee
Convictions and SentencingConviction Number: 001
Case Number: 02036644
Court File Number: K602003695
Disposition Date: 07/29/2003
Controlling Agency: Dakota Co So
Court Agency: Dakota District Court
Assigned Custodial Agency: Dakota County Jail
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Count Number: 001
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Statute Description: Crim Sex Cond-3rd Deg-Vict 13-15 Actor >24m older
Statute Number: 609.344.1.B
Disposition: Convicted
Pronounced Fine: $3000
Stayed Fine: $0
Court Cost Amount: $0
Restitution Amount: $0
Assessment Amount: $40
Pronounced Sentence:
Probation Sentence: 15 Years
Conditional Confinement: 45 Days
Conviction Level: Felony
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