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Truth 
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Posted on: Mar. 29 2004,11:37 pm |
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Ok Jim you fix the roads, get busy on 770 Ave north out of Albert Lea, it's pretty rough last weeks patches aren't enough. Oh and the 750 Ave. project I have some suggestions about the new alignment. Also, when you get around to checking the bridges this spring pay special attention to the Turtle Creek crossing on 230 St. Maybe you could get Fletcher to help out he's rich. He could afford the equipment and the payroll to maintain the highway system.
P.S. I would like to talk to you about the potetial for law suites in regard to the last traffic crash we had at the intersection of 750 Ave. and 150 St. There have been some complaints about visibility for eastbound traffic there.
Once you two armchair politicians get done planning how it ought to be, get busy and do something about it.
Hey Fletcher, not everyone within the county is a benign farmer. If you can muster the guts come check it out sometime. You'd be surprised judging from your head in the sand attitude.
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iowegian
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Posted on: Mar. 29 2004,11:43 pm |
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| Quote (repdan @ Mar. 29 2004,1:32:pm) | | Bishop no longer serves in the House, he retired last year. |
Yeh and he moved his business to Northwood 
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hoosier
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Posted on: Mar. 30 2004,8:03 am |
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Repdan, thanks for the info on Bishop. I am glad he is gone, he was the poster boy for what is wrong in politics today.
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The devil begins with froth on the lips of an angel entering into battle for a holy and just cause. Grigory Pomerants
We have crossed the boundary that lies between Republic and Empire. Garet Garrett
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repdan
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Posted on: Mar. 30 2004,12:36 pm |
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The bill allows the dot to do a study on safety. On some roads the limit can and should be increased, but not on others.
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carpe ductem.....remember we're all in this together..I'm pull'n for you.
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Mar. 30 2004,1:39 pm |
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From "Truth"| Quote | | Ok Jim you fix the roads, get busy on 770 Ave north out of Albert Lea, it's pretty rough last weeks patches aren't enough. Oh and the 750 Ave. project I have some suggestions about the new alignment. Also, when you get around to checking the bridges this spring pay special attention to the Turtle Creek crossing on 230 St. Maybe you could get Fletcher to help out he's rich. He could afford the equipment and the payroll to maintain the highway system. |
You seem to have a case of Bipolar disease--one minute, you are all for personal responsibility--next you are in favor of government programs. With flip-flops like that, you should apply as Kerry's running mate!
I take it that this diatribe is in response to my advocating NOT sending money to Washington, so they have no say in State road matters? Is it your point that we should take care of our own local roads, instead of waiting for Washington to do it? If so, I agree. You say you have some suggestions about the new alignment--and about potential blind spots? That's GOOD--that's just the kind of LOCAL CONTROL we need, instead of taking the design that "Big Daddy" Washington forces on us, as well as his "one size fits all" restrictions.
Let the Federal Government set standards and funding for the Interstate highways (they haven't done a very good job of THAT, have they) and let the States and local areas take care of their own areas. After all, who knows our OWN needs better than LOCAL people.
Now, all we have to do is to get more people into OUR line of thinking--QUIT SENDING MONEY TO WASHINGTON SO WE HAVE TO BEG THEM TO GET OUR OWN MONEY BACK.
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Truth
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Posted on: Mar. 30 2004,4:23 pm |
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We could not afford to make all the necessary repairs on our own. If we lost federal assistance for road maintenance our roads would be horrible or if we kept up on them we may have to eliminate human services and public health, (The Truth stops and thinks......) wait a minute no DHS and Public Health to suck my pockets dry....OK yeah Jim, lets stop paying taxes and we'll fix our own roads. Also, while we're at it, could we set up our own toll boths at the county lines to extract profits from the travelers. Then we could afford our own military and we could secede from the union. We'll use the money from the toll roads and raids on U.S. shipments of goods trespassing on our new nation's soil to strengthen our forces so that we can defend ourselves when the U.S. forces come. We will stop their attempts to enforce the constitution and lay claim to what they arrogantly view as American soil.
Sh*t Jim I'm not flip floping, I hate taxes more than the average American, however, there are certain things we as a nation can do better than as a divided people. We don't need government intrusion into our personal lives and decisions as free people living in a democracy, that can not be denied. However, in this case we are talking about infrastucture. My point was, if you think we shouldn't follow the federal government's rules on highway safety and maintenance than ante up, because without that help our roads are gonna suck and sure don't think we are going to maintain the U.S. Trunk Highways and Interstates for them are we?
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Mar. 30 2004,4:44 pm |
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| Quote | | However, in this case we are talking about infrastucture. My point was, if you think we shouldn't follow the federal government's rules on highway safety and maintenance than ante up, because without that help our roads are gonna suck and sure don't think we are going to maintain the U.S. Trunk Highways and Interstates for them are we? |
My point exactly. Look back at the previous post--the Federal Government SHOULD maintain the Interstates--that's part of the INTERSTATE COMMERCE portion of the Constitution. While you are at it, look at Article 10 of the Bill of Rights--identifying States Rights. Local roads--I'd be GLAD to ante up for local maintenance, as long as the Federal Government had nothing to do with it. Why in the world should we pay for the multi-billion dollar Big Ditch boondoggle in Boston (a spendid example of Federal efficiency and foresight--or PORK), and why should they pay for a farm-to-market road in Minnesota? | Quote | | there are certain things we as a nation can do better than as a divided people. |
| Quote | | We could not afford to make all the necessary repairs on our own |
Who do you suppose PAYS for Federal involvement in roads and infrastructure? Answer: WE ALL DO.
Is there an "economy of scale" in having the Feds TAKE OUR MONEY, "PLAN" WHAT THEY THINK WE SHOULD HAVE, then have us BEG TO GET OUR OWN MONEY BACK--WITH Federal Restrictions? Answer: NO, just keep the money and fix your own roads.
Just WHY is it better to let the Federal government dictate to us? Wouldn't it be nice to tell the Feds "No thanks, we won't take your money, and we won't send any to you, either--we will set our own speed limits, alcohol tolerances, etc."
I'm not advocating a revolution (but I can DREAM!) --Just that we have to get away from the idea that the Federal Government is the "Big Daddy", doling out allowances. This is a major "sea change" in the last 40 years--looking to the government for help rather than within. The difference between Europeans and Americans USED to be that in America, you could do anything that wasn't illegal--but in Europe, people always looked to the KING for PERMISSION before starting any project. How did it come to be that Americans let the GOVERNMENT BE KING?
Will Rogers had a great saying--"The genius of government is MAKING PEOPLE THINK THE OTHER GUY IS GOING TO PAY! SOMETIMES, YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO TAKE "FREE" MONEY!
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Truth
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Posted on: Mar. 30 2004,6:09 pm |
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I can't recall the feds helping to plan our county roads, except of coarse that they conform to safety standards; that's what our engineers do. We just have to follow federal requirements to get aid.
If you would rather drive on sh*t roads then get involved.
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Mar. 30 2004,7:08 pm |
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| Quote | | We just have to follow federal requirements to get aid |
"Truth"--either you still don't get it, or you are deliberately avoiding the question--WHO DO YOU THINK PAYS FOR THIS "AID"?
Your "income shift" reminds me of the old Abbott and Costello joke--"Loan me $10, but only give me $5--that way, I'll owe you $5, and you'll owe ME $5, and we'll be even! No more money was created by sending OUR money to Washington--let's skip the comedy routine, and handle our own finances.
It appears you have been on the government payroll so long that you have become "institutionalized". 
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Truth
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Posted on: Apr. 05 2004,2:16 pm |
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What did railroads look like before the creation of the USRA?
Was it as cost effective to ship by rail before or after the imposition of standards?
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