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Posted on: Mar. 27 2004,10:37 am |
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All right.
Even though Minnow was gassed when he rambled on about ganja again, he was correct about some things.
First offense, Possession or sale of a small amount of MJ (less than 42.5grams) is a petty misdemeanor. However, by statute a person convicted of possession of a small amount must participate in a drug education progam unless the court finds that program to be inappropriate for the offender.
All other offenses involving MJ are either a misdemeanor or felony.
The rest of minnow's word's are very suspect. I know fast food is not healthy, but, I don't ever recall getting stupified on a quarterpound bacon cheese burger and fries. I like milk shakes too but, there also, I could still function quite well after having one.
Minnow, remember, marijuana doesn't make you smarter or more interesting; it only makes you think you are. To the sober person you're funny but, that fades and then you're just annoying. That's the point you have reached.
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minnow
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Posted on: Mar. 27 2004,11:04 am |
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Huh?
"Minnow, remember, marijuana doesn't make you smarter or more interesting;---->How in the world would you know what cannabis does or doesn't do? Are you implying that I post while high on cannabis or something? How in the world could you possibly know that?! I've never posted here stoned...LOL I have OCD, and only use VERY sparingly as needed for medicinal puposes. "it only makes you think you are."---->No, it actually appears that it makes YOU think I am! 
To the sober person you're funny but, that fades and then you're just annoying. ---->You create these little visions or fantasies in your head when you're on the net reading posts, then you not only convince yourself of them, but act on them as well. That's the definition of an insane person.
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MrTarzan
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Posted on: Mar. 27 2004,4:28 pm |
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Man, I love it when you guys get together. It is funny stuff. Thanks for answering that for me with numbers. I agree with minnow about prohibition for cannabis not working. It should also be uniform across the country if the whole country is paying for a "war" on it.
Don't confuse that with my saying that all drugs should be legal. I am only talking about marijuanna laws. I equate those to the 1930's prohibition laws on alcohol that did way more harm to the country than good.
I wish that people that I know that will always use pot and refuse to stop because they believe civil disobedience about this subject is required, could buy it from a safe place that is not controlled by criminals, where the money would go to the state in the form of tax, instead of maybe into the hands of people that truly might be killers, terrorists or whatever. It is the laws that are making criminals rich and sapping our limited resources and creating a huge blackmarket. The whole thing is insane in my opinion.
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Posted on: Mar. 27 2004,7:12 pm |
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| Quote (minnow @ Mar. 27 2004,2:26:am) | | for anything under 1.5 oz it's against the law to arrest the person. That means impossible to get jail. |
You seriously think that as long as someone doesn't end up in jail that what they did was legal? If I do 90 mph on the freeway its legal because I'll just get a fine, maybe a summons, but as long as I don't go to jail its supposedly legal?
| Quote | | One day cannibus will be legal. |
What do you mean "one day", you just said anything under 1.5 ounces is less than a felony, and that makes it "decriminalized" somehow. So which is it minnow, decriminalized if not a felony, illegal but will be legal "one day"?
| Quote | | I'm unpatriotic because I won't follow the herd of cattle off the cliff. |
No, you're unpatriotic because you keep whining about how things are better in Europe, and refer to most Americans as white trash rednecks. If you really think the grass (no pun intended) is greener on the other side of the fence, move to Europe.
| Quote | | Don't ever kid yourself, there are many here who'd love to see da minner in jail because his mind is too free |
I'm glad your mind is free, but I think thats all its worth anyway.
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Posted on: Mar. 29 2004,8:58 am |
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Just let me reply to this unpatriotic thing. The United States Government is one of the most corrupt in the whole world. We now have more people behind bars than any other nation on the planet. Our government, with their killing of woman and children all over the globe in the name of "Freedom" has brought us the rath of people that want us dead. But just like some people in here, the terrorist confuses the U.S. and its people. I have to agree with most in Europe, our government is no longer the nice guy on the block, we are an arrogant bully.
But! I love this country, I love the people, I love this land. Its the best nation on earth, but not because of what some politician does or doesnt do, its because of the people.
I hate our government, I only wish 9/11 would have targeted our politicians instead of innocent people. Yes, I am saying that we have people in our government today that I think terrorists have every right to want dead. But dont confuse the government with the people, is all I am saying.
And to tell someone that they arent as patriotic as you, that if they dont like it, they can leave. Thats playground material, children say that, or people in Albert Lea that dont like what you have to say. How about trying to understand that some people love this place so much that they are unwilling to stand by and watch it go to hell. You may not agree with what they believe in, but dont assume they dont care, or are unpatriotic because they dont like the way things are done.
Sorry for the rant, just sick of this unpatriotic bull $hit going around. 
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The devil begins with froth on the lips of an angel entering into battle for a holy and just cause. Grigory Pomerants
We have crossed the boundary that lies between Republic and Empire. Garet Garrett
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Posted on: Mar. 29 2004,9:56 am |
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Geo - You remind me of my Father - totally unreasonably redneck against pot. He would have absolutely lost it if I'd been caught - might have thrown me out of the house even. He must have bought into the propaganda the government was putting out in the 60's and early 70's. Remember the films with blury pictures and kids running into traffic or jumping out of windows? The stuff the rest of us were too smart to believe.
Anyway, my Dad died in his 40's from too much smoking and drinking.
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minnow
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Posted on: Mar. 29 2004,11:31 am |
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BS...you're lying because smoking and drinking aren't drugs.
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GEOKARJO
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Posted on: Mar. 29 2004,12:37 pm |
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It is against the law, make it legal and I will probly sit down and light up a joint with you. No one is in jail for smoking it, only growing and selling most are second offenders. I don't agree with the law that says I can only have one wife but if I do they would put me in jail for that. Both crimes harm no one.
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minnow
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Posted on: Mar. 29 2004,12:50 pm |
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Another classic myth, " No one is in jail for smoking it, only growing and selling most are second offenders."
Arrest Reports
It is with great amazement and bewilderment that 'anti-drug' bureaucrats and so-called 'anti-drug' groups insist on spreading the 'Big Lie' that "no one in the U.S. is arrested on marijuana charges."
This is a patently absurd statement in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
Do you think that the 12 million citizens who have been arrested on marijuana charges in the U.S. since 1965 believe otherwise?
War Against Marijuana Consumers
Our country's war on drugs places great emphasis on arresting people for smoking marijuana. Since 1990, nearly 5.9 million Americans have been arrested on marijuana charges, a greater number than the entire populations of Alaska, Delaware, the District of Columbia, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Vermont and Wyoming combined. In 2000, state and local law enforcement arrested 734,498 people for marijuana violations. This is an increase of 800 percent since 1980, and is the highest ever recorded by the FBI.
As has been the case throughout the 1990s, the overwhelming majority of those charged with marijuana violations in 2000-- 646,042 Americans (88 %) -- were for simple possession. The remaining 12% (88,456 Americans) were for "sale/manufacture", an FBI category which includes marijuana grown for personal use or purely medical purposes. These new FBI statistics indicate that one marijuana smoker is arrested every 45 seconds in America. Taken together, the total number of marijuana arrests for 2000 far exceeded the combined number of arrests for violent crimes, including murder, manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery and aggravated assault.
Like most Americans, people who smoke marijuana also pay taxes, love and support their families, and work hard to make a better life for their children. Suddenly they are arrested, jailed and treated like criminals solely because of their recreational drug of choice. State agencies frequently step in and declare children of marijuana smokers to be "in danger", and many children are placed into foster homes as a result. This causes enormous pain, suffering and financial hardship for millions of American families. It also engenders distrust and disrespect for the law and for the criminal justice system overall. Responsible marijuana smokers present no threat or danger to America or its children, and there is no reason to treat them as criminals, or to take their children away. As a society we need to find ways to discourage personal conduct of all kinds that is abusive or harmful to others. Responsible marijuana smokers are not the problem and it is time to stop arresting them
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GEOKARJO
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Posted on: Mar. 29 2004,1:07 pm |
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And everyone in prison is innocent
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