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rosebudinal 
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Posted on: Mar. 06 2004,9:12 am |
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It was definately a PR thing. The media( and the lawyers behind it) want to instill in us that there is no more personal responsibility in America. Mcdonalds is just trying to save face. Like someone posted earlier, they did so voluntarily. Given any more time and a law firm no doubt would have brought yet another suit against them. I am feeling the need to vent on what were once deemed Stupid Laws. example Wear a seatbelt (if you don't care if your ejected through your window.......why should I? ) A major problem in America is that no one is instilling self respect, pride and self responsibility in our youth anymore. And lazy adults are seeing people get away with more every day. People screwing over Workmans comp, unemployment and any other program out there meant to give a hand up. Granted someone will read this and say that these are nessary programs. My answer, yes for people who use them RESPONSIBLY.
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Mar. 06 2004,12:20 pm |
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Thanks, Rosebudinal. Here are more examples--from a recent E-mail.| Quote | In Honor of Stupid People
In case you needed further proof that the human race is doomed through stupidity, here are some actual label instructions on consumer goods.
On a Sears hairdryer -- Do not use while sleeping.
(Shoot, that's the only time I have to work on my hair).
On a bag of Fritos -- You could be a winner! No purchase necessary. Details inside.
(the shoplifter special)?
On a bar of Dial soap -- "Directions: Use like regular soap."
(and that would be how???...)
On some Swanson frozen dinners -- "Serving suggestion: Defrost."
(but, it's "just" a suggestion).
On Tesco's Tiramisu dessert (printed on bottom) -- "Do not turn upside down."
(well...duh, a bit late, huh)!
On Marks &Spencer Bread Pudding -- "Product will be hot after heating."
(...and you thought?..)
On packaging for a Rowenta iron -- "Do not iron clothes on body."
(but wouldn't this save me more time)?
On Boot's Children Cough Medicine -- "Do not drive a car or operate machinery after taking this medication."
(We could do a lot to reduce the rate of construction accidents if we could just get those 5-year-olds with head-colds off those forklifts.)
On Nytol Sleep Aid -- "Warning: May cause drowsiness"
(and...I'm taking this because???....)
On most brands of Christmas lights -- "For indoor or outdoor use only."
(as opposed to...what)?
On a Japanese food processor -- "Not to be used for the other use."
(now, somebody out there, help me on this. I'm a bit curious.)
On Sainsbury's peanuts -- "Warning: contains nuts."
(talk about a news flash)
On an American Airlines packet of nuts -- "Instructions: Open packet, eat nuts."
(Step 3: maybe, uh...fly Delta?)
On a child's Superman costume -- "Wearing of this garment does not enable you to fly."
(I don't blame the company I blame the parents for this one.)
On a Swedish chainsaw -- "Do not attempt to stop chain with your hands or genitals."
(Good Grief...was there a lot of this happening somewhere?) |
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Truth
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Posted on: Mar. 06 2004,5:02 pm |
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OK. ROSEBUDINAL (what is that?) I like your post on gramar and glad you're with me on the personal responsibilty deal. However, operating a motorvehicle on a public roadway is a privilege. No person has a right to operate a motor vehicle on a public roadway in this or any other state. The privilege to operate a motor vehicle on public roadways comes with rules. One of those rules is that you must wear a seatbelt (and you must wear it properly or it doesn't count) or you face sanctions. Also, your seatbelt does more than keep in your car or your face off the dashboard in a crash. Your seatbelt will also hold you in your seat in the event of a crash making it much easier to maneuver after first contact with another object or initial loss of control. Its hard to keep driving after a crash has begun if you're sitting in the wrong seat or if you find yourself looking up from the passenger's side floor.
Hey scattergun Jim. I like the post. Funny. Yet, like all label warnings and directions they refer to past real events or complaints. Sounds impossible to semi-inteligent and reasoning adults, but in my experience I would not be surprised. People as a whole are diverse and overall not that smart. Only a very few pave the way, most follow and a few are only around at the end of the day through the kindness and tolerance of others, or just dumb luck.
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Mar. 06 2004,5:25 pm |
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| Quote | | Your seatbelt will also hold you in your seat in the event of a crash making it much easier to maneuver after first contact with another object or initial loss of control. |
Reminds me of an aircraft accident report:| Quote | | I touched down on the right main gear, veered off the runway to the right, overcorrected to the left, hit several runway lights, put in power, caught the propeller, ground-looped off the right side of the runway and through a ditch, causing the plane to flip over--AT WHICH POINT I LOST CONTROL! |
Amazing, how many people wouldn't THINK of flying without a seat belt--but they don't wear one in a car--where you can be hit by another driver through no fault of your own.
One more reason to wear a seatbelt--IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR THE EMT'S TO FIND THE BODIES! 
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rosebudinal
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Posted on: Mar. 06 2004,5:57 pm |
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jim, I can attest to the last reason and truth, honestly, I know no one who promotes the usage of seatbelts and knows personally how they save lives more than I do. I used to do assemblies in the schools under the direction of then Sen. Pat Piper, so certainly, you are not educating me on seatbelts......However, what I am saying is that I have heard a million reasons why idiots refuse to wear them or have their children in them. NONE of them make sense. My answer; to save your loved ones life. I just find it sad that we have to implement laws to" enforce "people to wear them when they don't have enough sense to in the first place......
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Spidey
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Posted on: Mar. 06 2004,10:59 pm |
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| Quote | | what I am saying is that I have heard a million reasons why idiots refuse to wear them or have their children in them. NONE of them make sense. My answer; to save your loved ones life. I just find it sad that we have to implement laws to" enforce "people to wear them when they don't have enough sense to in the first place...... |
Wow ... very opinionated. I guess turn about is fair play. I disagree with you 100%. Yes, children should be in seat belts for more reasons then car accidents. I believe this should be a law. Adults ... NO way.
Enforcing or even having a law telling adults what to strap around them in their own car is bogus and just plain wrong. Where does anyone get off thinking they know what's best for another individual? If you really believe this then you must think Motor cycles should be against the law too. How about ATV's? Boats? Water skiing is dangerous ... perhaps we shouldn't let people do that anymore either.
I get so angry when do-gooders and self righteous speakers think they have the right to decide anything for me that isn't a danger to anyone else.
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irisheyes
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Posted on: Mar. 06 2004,11:42 pm |
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| Quote (Truth @ Mar. 06 2004,5:02:pm) | | Also, your seatbelt does more than keep in your car or your face off the dashboard in a crash. |
Yes, the seatbelt law has many reasons. You forgot to mention the more intrusion on people from police who want to use it as another example of probable cause. How often do the elderly get pulled over for seatbelt violations when not using it? How often do others? It's just another way to pull someone over that before they couldn't do without other probable cause.
Another thing is the amount of money generated from the tickets. Yes, many reasons for it indeed...
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rosebudinal
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Posted on: Mar. 07 2004,3:37 am |
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(quote)I get so angry when do-gooders and self righteous speakers think they have the right to decide anything for me that isn't a danger to anyone else.
You are just not getting it are you? What I am saying (again) is that....why should we have laws saying people must wear seatbelts? If you don't care about your own safety and well-being why should I? Your child is another issue, if you are dumb enough not to know that your child is safer strapped in a carseat or toddlerseat or belt then I guess its up to us responsible adults to say "hey, this kid deserves to be buckled in". In other words I don't care how careless you are with your life, children deserve to be protected. Opinionated? Okay, call it what you will. I call it commonsense.
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Spidey
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Posted on: Mar. 07 2004,9:49 am |
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| Quote | | You are just not getting it are you? |
Oh I got it the first time. Did you even read my post? I said YES kids should be strapped in ... YES there should be a law about that.
As far as adults ... it's NONE of your business, and it shouldn't be any of the laws business either.
Your pet names for people who don't agree with you such as "idiot" and "dumb" only shows your Self-righteous, sanctimonious, holier-than-though opinions. These are not common sense names.
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rosebudinal
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Posted on: Mar. 07 2004,1:08 pm |
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And commonsense, guess you didn't see that one.
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