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Ole1kanobe 
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Posted on: Feb. 15 2004,10:19 am |
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But all of this aside, if the channel were made deep enough to accommodate the barrage of silt that would be flushed from upstream as well as extra water capacity, a lot of these problems could be lessened or even avoided all together. A wider channel would be nice, but that would require more construction than a deeper channel. But again we are right back to where we started months ago on this topic, these are prairie lakes and were never meant to last forever, only with proper management can these lakes continue to survive.
Now my next question is how on earth would a new dam be able to raise the lake level during a dry spell without lowering the level somewhere else? Doesn't anyone understand the simple cause and effect of dams? if you restrict the flow via a damn, then anything downstream will get lower (the water level), not stay the same.
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Ole1kanobe
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Posted on: Feb. 15 2004,10:24 am |
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Some people are going crazy with collecting fish, but most are not taking more than they can eat/clean. Like myslef, the fish I harvested will be feeding 6 people tonight.
I just wish someone would start collecting all those carp and sell them before AL has an odor problem that is going to be beyond belief.
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Posted on: Feb. 15 2004,12:48 pm |
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| Quote | | Also like most residents I have no problem putting good fishing in front of the health of the lake because most people judge the health of a lake by the size of the fish you can catch in it anyways. |
Saying that you do not care about the health of the lake is the same as saying you do not care about your own health or the health of your children.
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Posted on: Feb. 15 2004,1:06 pm |
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I didn't say that I don't care about the health of the lake. I just think that your idea of a healthy lake and my idea of a healthy lake are probably a little different.
Minnow,
There is nothing wrong with eating fish out of Albert Lea lake. The only restriction is that the DNR recommends limiting your intake of carp over 20" to once a week. (unless you're a pregnant woman)
Albert Lea Lake information report Scroll down to "Meal Advice for the General Population"
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Posted on: Feb. 15 2004,1:30 pm |
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I agree more with your idea of a healthy lake Liberal. The best protection for it in the long run is making it a lake that people love to use and will be willing to spend on. I don't understand why everyone keeps saying that restoring it involves keeping it shallow. When it was first "discovered" and surveyed, was'nt the average depth 14 feet? Maybe Ed Shannon can clarify that. I know that it did have a gravel bottom with clams and everything normal balance. If we are really going to restore the lake, should'nt it be dug out to the natural gravel bottom? Then the depth should be 14 feet, should'nt it? The lake was full of game fish then. 
Ole1, it clearly stated in the paper that the DNR liberal fishing DID NOT include commercial equipment, so that is probably why none has arrived. You are probably correct that it should have been not only allowed, but sought after. Surely the DNR has a list of commercial companies allowed to operate here, but they are government employees and not likely to take any extra steps not required. 
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Posted on: Feb. 15 2004,1:35 pm |
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Of course you all know that I've been right about everything thus far.
He you go: Now listen very carefully.
There will ne NO measurable changes in that lake in our lifetime, no matter what we do to it or how much money we throw in it.
period.
Time will, of course, prove me correct again.
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MrTarzan
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Posted on: Feb. 15 2004,1:51 pm |
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Minnow,
I could agree with you because of what I perceive to be a paralysis on the part of local government, and polarization of the voting populace on what is the best plan, but if something is to actually be put into plan, regardless of which plan, it will change. None of the top three plans I have seen in the local press, (those which have enough backing that they might make it to reality) are going to fail to make an impact. It is the degree of impact that seperates the plans, and I hope the most effecient is the one adopted, whichever that is determined to be. I don't want to see more money wasted like with the school, and the rusty old dredge mentioned earlier. 
Still, I remember standing on the shores of Lake Erie as a youth when the lake was dead and we went there to start picking up garbage. Today it is a thriving fishery, so it can be changed in our lifetime easily. If you are saying it is because of all the arguing, you may be right, but not because doing something won't change it. It will.
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Posted on: Feb. 15 2004,2:03 pm |
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Question:
Do we as Citizens have the right to speak at the Watershed board meeting? If we do then maybe we had better start speaking up. Lets start fixing the problem. If we need a new dam Then lets find the monies and get a new dam built,if we are going to draw down, well it looks like as good as time as any. I am sick and tired of the lipservice we all get Lets get involved and fix the problem It will only make the quality of life better here for all of us and our children and grandchildren. Let leave the area better then our fore fathers left it for us 
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MrTarzan
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Posted on: Feb. 15 2004,2:14 pm |
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Amen Mad Max, Amen
When are the meetings anyway?
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Ole1kanobe
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Posted on: Feb. 15 2004,9:13 pm |
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I didn't mean for commercial harvesting of the rough fish, I was hoping a few private people might want to cash in on the idea, although not many people have access to a refer truck real readily. Transport would probably be the biggest problem.
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