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REPOMAN 
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Posted on: Oct. 12 2005,5:20 pm |
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| Quote (gabby05 @ Oct. 12 2005,4:57pm) | I don't think I have a low IQ but can i come to Eduardos this weekend??  All this cat fighting makes me wanna see the outcome of this.  |
Something tells me that Geok-off is going to have a restraining order seved on me via email... 
I can understand you wanting to go - hell he's up all hours of the night formulating his "plan of attack"...
Eddie's will probably do a little extra business tha night based on what I'm hearing...
not much though - I don't plan on staying long...
I'm going down for a wedding - I imagine Geok-off will try to bring a bunch of buddies with him to try to keep his back bone straight (you know - he's supposed to be a big tough guy - but he needs all the help he can get just to serve me a beer)...
this was meant to be a debate on a smoking ban - which I am in favor of in all public places - and George has decided he is the thought police...
you do know that he arrested the notorius Tiny Mercer, right..
what the hell did he bring that up for... 
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GEOKARJO
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Posted on: Oct. 12 2005,6:12 pm |
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Internet Bullie Or What, I bet you kick dogs, too.
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Wareagle11B
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Posted on: Oct. 12 2005,6:42 pm |
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Repo you need to let it go as does Geo. You both should know better than to involve yourselves in internet tit for tat b/s. I really don't care if Geo started it or you did Repo but it is getting a tad OLD to consistently see you 2 going at it over the forum. Repo go down to eddies say Hi to Patty and then just leave. It is as simple as that. Please will you both just knock it off.
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GEOKARJO
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Posted on: Oct. 12 2005,6:59 pm |
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October 1, 2005
Two more closed businesses.
Minnehaha Grill
Margarita Bella
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REPOMAN
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Posted on: Oct. 12 2005,9:46 pm |
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| Quote (GEOKARJO @ Oct. 12 2005,6:59pm) | October 1, 2005
Two more closed businesses.
Minnehaha Grill
Margarita Bella |
2 dives that were going out of business with or without the mind-numbing cigarettes...
two more closed bars - that's great... 
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GEOKARJO
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Posted on: Oct. 12 2005,11:34 pm |
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Tobacco industry contests state fee
Tobacco lawyers attack cigarette fee
Sep. 29, 2005
PATRICK CONDON
Associated Press
ST. PAUL - Call it a fee or call it a tax - either way, lawyers for the big tobacco companies argued Thursday, the state went back on a 1998 tobacco settlement when it implemented a 75-cent increase in the state charge on a pack of cigarettes.
"Whether it's a fee or a tax, the fact of the matter is the purpose was to reimburse the state for costs the tobacco companies are already reimbursing," said Steve Patton, a lawyer for R.J. Reynolds, who argued for several major tobacco companies during a hearing in Ramsey County District Court.
Gov. Tim Pawlenty, who proposed the so-called "health impact fee," had insisted on that terminology to hold to his own pledge to not support tax increases. Critics and even some allies said it was a tax in disguise, and the big tobacco lawsuit initially looked to turn on that claim - but in court Thursday, both sides said that didn't really matter.
The tobacco company lawyers said it should be overturned because the billions of dollars from the tobacco settlement already pay for state health costs from smoking - something the health impact fee now purports to do as well, though much of the money actually goes to education programs.
The '98 settlement language expressly prohibited future claims on tobacco companies, the tobacco lawyers argued.
"For eight years the state has enjoyed the returns on the tobacco settlement - billions of dollars to cover state health care costs," said Murray Garrick, another tobacco lawyer. "The state in essence, by the health impact fee, is seeking to double-dip."
State lawyers argued that the language in the settlement only prohibited future court claims, not legislative action.
"Had the parties wished to cover state-imposed taxes or fees, they would have said so expressly" in the settlement document, said Brad Delapena, the assistant attorney general who argued the case.
Delapena asked Judge Michael Fetsch to not base his ruling on semantic arguments. "If you re-labeled this an excise tax and didn't say you were going to use it for health care, there would be no argument," he said.
In fact, Patton acknowledged as much - that if the health impact fee had instead been passed as an undedicated excise tax, the tobacco companies probably wouldn't have brought the case.
Karen Janisch, Pawlenty's legal counsel, said to overturn the health impact fee would set a bad precedent.
"This truly is an effort to impinge on the exclusive power granted to the Legislature," Janisch said.
While Pawlenty's office argued alongside attorneys working for Attorney General Mike Hatch, the friction between those two longtime rivals surfaced briefly when Janisch pointed out that the state attorney general, and not the Legislature, had negotiated the '98 settlement.
If Fetsch overturns the fee, Janisch said, "the court would be taking an extraordinary action that in my view would be vastly expanding the powers of the attorney general's office."
Should the tobacco companies prevail, Pawlenty and lawmakers would have to find a way to cover $401 million in expected collections from the tobacco charge. Fetsch gave attorneys a month to submit final filings in the case; it's unclear how much later his ruling would come.
Fetsch did rule on one point Thursday, allowing so-called "non-settling" tobacco companies - small companies that didn't participate in the 1998 deal - to intervene in the case on the side of the state. They support the state since the smaller companies would still have to pay the health impact fee if the court overturns it for the big tobacco companies.
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red rocker
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Posted on: Oct. 13 2005,12:37 pm |
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My bad Repo, for some reason I thought you used 6 dice. Anyway, I'm out of this one and agree with wareagle. Move on and let it go. You all will forever agree to disagree. Nice comment about kicking dogs GEO. For some sick reason it made me laugh.
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Botto 82
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Posted on: Oct. 13 2005,1:43 pm |
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...and cats. I bet he kicks cats, too... 
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Expatriate
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Posted on: Oct. 13 2005,1:52 pm |
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Geo, I know Eddie's was a gold mine back in the Pig House hey-day, can you give us a little history on the bar?
Pat F. owned it in the seventies I think he had two daughters Cathy and Patty, are they co-owners now?
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REPOMAN
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Posted on: Oct. 13 2005,2:09 pm |
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| Quote (red rocker @ Oct. 13 2005,12:37pm) | | Nice comment about kicking dogs GEO. For some sick reason it made me laugh. |
It's about time someone laughed at WHAT Geokoff writes instead of HOW he writes...
but I don't kick dogs or cats - I love most animals - allergic to cats though - as much as I like 'em they do make my eyes water pretty bad...
I own two dogs as house pets and we keep two more in the lot to discourage anyone from trespassing... 
one is named REPO and one is named BEAR...
maybe Geokoff can run a google search on my dog's names now and try to figure out who I am again...
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