Netanyahu is the elected leader of Israel, a country. His Popeyness is a religious figure.
What does it matter what the last antichrist pope says? His fall was prophesized long ago. If he would have said those things 400-500 years ago he would have been burned at the stake by his very own church. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Just don't call him Holy Father. Infallible? no1
"And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven." Matt 23:9
-------------- JESUS DID THE ORGANIZING for His church and whenever men go beyond that pattern (found only in the New Testament of Jesus Christ) they do so at their own peril. One needs to only read the New Testament to see the problem that has been created over the last two centuries within the churches.
Have to admit I agree with the Pope's statement about "Trickle Down" economic models not working. Thanks to the growing greed in this country this totally feasable economic model has been bastardized into something unworkable. Just like Marx and Engal's economic model was basterdized by the Soviets and the Chi-coms
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(the breeze @ Sep. 28 2015,8:08 am)
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If he would have said those things 400-500 years ago he would have been burned at the stake by his very own church.
A few centuries ago it didn't take much to be burned at the stake. The box I'm typing on right now could easily be confused with witchcraft not so long ago.
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"And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven." Matt 23:9
What about Father's Day, do we have to scribble out the "Father" on the card and write something else?
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If he would have said those things 400-500 years ago he would have been burned at the stake by his very own church.
A few centuries ago it didn't take much to be burned at the stake. The box I'm typing on right now could easily be confused with witchcraft not so long ago.
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"And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven." Matt 23:9
What about Father's Day, do we have to scribble out the "Father" on the card and write something else?
We have one Father http://www.letusreason.org/RC6cont.htm The term Pope comes from the Latin word “Papa” which translates to daddy. The first time this term was used to address a Roman church official was the year 604 the man named Gregory 1 refused the title. His predecessor Boniface the 3rd in 607 accepted it and it has been the title of the Roman church until today.
The Scripture speaks of only one Holy Father, it is not a successive office. No one on earth is told this. Paul spoke of spiritual fathers as instructors but this is different than the title bestowed on the Pope. Call no man your father Jesus said. you have only one Father who is in heaven Mt.23:9. The Father of Rome is on earth! Mt. 23:7-9: “greetings in the marketplaces, and to be called by men, 'Rabbi, Rabbi. But you, do not be called 'Rabbi'; for One is your Teacher, the Christ, and you are all brethren. Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.” We do not call another father in reference to a spiritual teacher. Jesus tells the Church to address God in prayer as Abba, father or daddy.
There is not a single instance in the Scriptures where any title of Holy Father is applied to a man on earth. No apostle, not even Peter was called this. The term, “Holy Father” is used only once in the entire Bible, and it is used only once in prayer by Jesus addressing God the Father, since God alone is holy in His perfect nature (John 17:11).
-------------- JESUS DID THE ORGANIZING for His church and whenever men go beyond that pattern (found only in the New Testament of Jesus Christ) they do so at their own peril. One needs to only read the New Testament to see the problem that has been created over the last two centuries within the churches.
"And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven." Matt 23:9
Don't worry IE. Breeze taking a single verse from the bible is, in this case, taken a little out of context. I'm guessing you were brought up Catholic, and your catechism should have taught you this.
In the passage, Jesus is calling out some the priests and rabbis as hypocrites. They talked the good talk, but didn't live by their talk. They wanted respect for them, not necessarily for the Father. They wanted to be honored and seen as great men, forgetting that the glory goes to God.
Go ahead and call your pops, father and your priest. You do just have one heavenly Father, but calling the others father is a show of respect both as a sire to you or someone who may be a leader or teacher of good things.
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