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Some talk show pundits raised some good questions that I think warrant an answer.

Everybody knew what was coming in terms of violence days before it happened.  The news media and the protesters themselves were telegraphing and planning the violence days/weeks in advance. Then why did the governor wait to send the NoGo's in later after the violence started happening and why did the President wait until after the verdict to speak?

The Monday morning quarterback in me believes posting the NoGo's all day Sunday and through Monday could have had a deterring effect coupled with a pro-judicial system speech by the President.
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Apparently the NG was deployed elsewhere, probably protecting stuff that matters.  The governor probably doesn't care if the bad part of town is tore up.


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They probably waited for a time when they felt fatigue had set into the protesters.  Pretty smart actually.

I was thinking the same thing, particularly if the curfew was still in effect.  When they said they wouldn't announce until 9 at night, it seemed obvious what the decision was.

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The officer could have used his taser at that point. Could have had his taser out and ready to use. Officer could have called and waited for backup even


I'd disagree with you regarding the taser.  In the couple seconds it would take for him to holster the gun and unholster a taser, or to get on his radio and call for backup, he didn't have time at that point.  He'd have no way of knowing if either of those men had guns of their own.  Any moment they could turn around and shoot back, and if he had time to get the taser, the distance is limited (often 15 or 25 feet).

Lastly, since the fight started when he's seated in a truck you figure the back half of his belt wasn't reachable.  So even if he wanted to reach for something else, the gun was most likely the only thing he could get his hands on.  I'll admit I'm no expert on tasers, but I know just enough to understand why the gun was the most reliable choice.


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PostIcon Posted on: Nov. 26 2014,6:13 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Wilson doesn't carry a taser anyway.

Can't spend too much time on this cuz I'm too busy with the holiday, but just the little bit so far I have looked at there are alot of inconsistencies.

Being upset about the shooting and memory being hazy could be an explanation for why Wilson's story kept chaging with every person he spoke to on the first day or two, but how does it explain the Seargant saying :
Q. Has he ever told you, yeah, I didn't know anything about what happened up at the Ferguson Market?
A Yes, he has told me that in subsequent conversations.

Q. He told you he didn't know about there being a stealing at the Ferguson Market?

A. Correct.

Q. Okay.

And a week or so later the police chief saying that Wilson's encounter with the men had nothing to do with the market robbery:

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/michael-brown-shooting/chief-

defends-release-robbery-surveillance-video-n181786

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Sargeant testimony:

The individual reached in and was trying to grab at his pistol, his

pistol came out of his holster. He told me he had control of the

weapon, but it was being pointed at him. He had the gun in his

hand, but the muzzle of the wepon had been turned where his hand

was actually turned toward him.

The gun went off.
Or did he say I fired a shot?
No, he said the gun wentoff.
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He said he started running, I got out of the car to chase him. He said he got down about 30, 40 feet from where the car was parked and for some reason the individual stopped and turned toward him. Brown said you're too much of a pussy to shoot me and turned, he had faced him and started to charge at Officer Wilson.
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Q. Has he ever told you, yeah, I didn't know anything about what happened up at the Ferguson Market?
A Yes, he has told me that in subsequent conversations.

Q. He told you he didn't know about there being a stealing at the Ferguson Market?

A. Correct.

Q. Okay.

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Officer Wilson told you that Michael Brown took off running and then he stopped and raised his arms and charged him?

A. Yes, ma'am.

Did he indicate to you how he raised his arms, how Michael Brown raised his arms?

A. It was like this, like he was going to charge at him.

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Detective from St. Louis says Officer Wilson told him "The first time he pulled the trigger he said that it misfired. The second time he pulled the trigger it fired and then he said he tried two additional times and they misfired." He told him he believes Michael Brown's hand was on the gun and that's why it misfired.

Didn't say Brown had cigarillos in his hand, said Wilson told him he advised dispatcher he was conducting a pedestrian check.

Q. If the suspect is running, then what would be your initial reason to keep shooting?

A. "As Darren Wilson describes it, the subject turned arond at that point. He doesn't tell us that he fired any rounds from the time that he got out of the car to the time that the subject turns around.

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http://www.scribd.com/doc/248128351/Darren-Wilson-Testimony


Even if he was upset and confused it seems odd that he'd tell the sergeant that his pistol came out of it's holster and that it just went off. Instead of telling him that he shot him in self defense.  

I'm sure the guy with Brown was pretty traumatized as well, but his story has been far more consistent and his testimony sounds way more believable to me.


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One thing we know for sure is there's one less thug in Missouri thanks to officer Wilson.

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A Taser could have been used in this situation.. This guy was killed shortly after Brown in same area after stealing 2 cans of pop..


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^^what does this video have to do with Brown? A completely different situation. Two cops instead of one, officers are out of their vehicle, the perp tries to move for higher ground and is advancing.These things completely change the confrontation.

Guess the thug won't be stealing soda anytime soon :rofl:


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Another dumbass comment by Self Banished..
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Another case of sour grapes by Alky

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