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(grassman @ Apr. 29 2014,6:20 am)
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(Self-Banished @ Apr. 29 2014,5:53 am)
QUOTE Personally I like world trade, you scream that it sends jobs elsewhere but other jobs are created to fill the vaccume. Other jobs. Then you complain that the people filling these other jobs (mostly minimum wage fast food) want a decent wage. Astounding! World economy? It's like dumping a glass of water in a bathtub. Our level of living is being brought down to that of the rest of the worst in the world except for the ones who run the show.
I take for example myself, high school grad, some college, some tech school. Almost thirty years driving and I have flourished. Or my son, high school grad, turned down post school and he's doing quite well for himself as a contractor. My daughter goes to tech school, works two jobs and despite being hooked up with a sad sack that sits around feeling sorry for himself does pretty well too and has a bright future.
Most of people's problems are self inflicted, they decide to have a family too soon, they use drugs, they sit around and feel sorry for themselves etc. Opportunities are out there, one only needs to be motivated.
It is a world economy, one only needs to know how to take advantage of it.
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Posted on: Apr. 29 2014,8:44 am |
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^^Quit fooling yourself, this isn’t about free trade it’s about cheap labor, we’ve shot ourselves in the foot and we’re about to put a bullet in the other foot
We’ve changed China from an agrarian third world backwater to a well financed industrialized militaristic giant with our greed trade. how’s that working out for US!
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Rosalind_Swenson
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Posted on: Apr. 29 2014,8:48 am |
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(Liberal @ Apr. 29 2014,7:34 am)
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QUOTE Liberal: QUOTE Obviously he thinks a lot more of mexicans than blacks and it seems the big difference is the black folk are in the projects with no family structure cuz the babies were all aborted and the men folk are all in prison, but the Mexicans, they are okay by him because they have family picnics. Obviously you could never see how editing that tape and taking his words out of context changed the point he was trying to make completely. He definitely is not a public speaker, and definitely used some poor choice of words, but omitting how he blames government policies for how bad too many black people do have it, put a completely different spin on it. The way they edited and spun their version was entirely out of whack from what he truly said. - of course YOU wouldn't have a problem with that tactic. SB, if the TPP is such a great thing then why can't our representatives be allowed to know what exactly it involves? Or we the people? That's not edited, the NY Times reporter only reported on the racial remarks. I don't think anyone cares what else he said during his daily 1hr sermon. Do you honestly think it changes what he said about blacks being better off under slavery because he made an anti-government statement before or after he said those things? The only people supporting this racist piece of crap at this point is other disgusting racists. Stay classy! 
QUOTE Do you honestly think it changes what he said about blacks being better off under slavery because he made an anti-government statement before or after he said those things?
As if he is endorsing slavery. Why leave out his Watts Riots and Mexican comments? Because that wouldn't portray him as much as being racist, as opposed to being an old white man with no Politically Correct training who was rambling about some of his views.
Plus, this Bundy ranch racist thing sure is another great way to distract and divide us.
QUOTE The only people supporting this racist piece of crap at this point is other disgusting racists. Stay classy!
Keep lying, twisting and spinning!
You should run for office. You'd fit right in.
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Posted on: Apr. 29 2014,10:04 am |
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Distract and divide us? Last I heard most normal people don't like to be associated with you ignorant racists, so we were divided on this issue way before that moron made his racist remarks.
If I said, "After communicating with this ignorant woman I wonder if women might be better off if they were no longer able to vote"
In your delusional world that statement isn't misogynistic if I compliment another group afterwards?
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Posted on: Apr. 29 2014,10:31 am |
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(Liberal @ Apr. 29 2014,10:04 am)
QUOTE Distract and divide us? Last I heard most normal people don't like to be associated with you ignorant racists, so we were divided on this issue way before that moron made his racist remarks.
If I said, "After communicating with this ignorant woman I wonder if women might be better off if they were no longer able to vote"
In your delusional world that statement isn't misogynistic if I compliment another group afterwards?
Trust me, anyone being called ignorant by you should take it as a compliment.
Other people who have said some of the same things as Bundy... Just worded differently:
Bill Cosby: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IhZve73KQpQ
QUOTE Prof. Walter Williams: "The welfare state has done to black Americans what slavery couldn't do, what Jim Crow couldn't do, what the harshest racism couldn't do," Mr. Williams says. "And that is to destroy the black family." http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052748704881304576094221050061598
QUOTE Rev. C. L. Bryant: In RUNAWAY SLAVE, an intriguing new documentary that opens in theaters this summer, Rev. C.L. Bryant journeys across America to find answers. A one-time NAACP local chapter president, Rev. Bryant discovers that by buying into the entitlement mindset of "progressives," the black community has traded one form of tyranny for another. Using leading black conservatives as "conductors," Rev. Bryant believes it is time for a new Underground Railroad to help liberate all Americans from the Government plantation that has left the black community dealing with a new form of slavery: entitlements. ]http://www.runawayslavemovie.com/aboutmovie
QUOTE Thomas Sowell: The black family survived centuries of slavery and generations of Jim Crow, but it has disintegrated in the wake of the liberals’ expansion of the welfare state. Most black children grew up in homes with two parents during all that time, but most grow up with only one parent today. ]http://www.nationalreview.com/article...]
QUOTE Alveda King: "Examining the statistics of the Centers for Disease Control and the Alan Guttmacher Institute, one can estimate that 14 million African Americans were killed by abortion between 1973 and 2005,” stated Dr. King. “That’s ‘far more’ than the number of blacks who suffered under the horrors of slavery from our country’s founding until emancipation. The last Census to count slaves in 1860 numbered them at 4 million. Even assuming short life spans, it’s hard to see how the total number of slaves approaches the number of blacks killed by abortion.” http://www.priestsforlife.org/pressre...lavery-
Are they ignorant racists or just people with opinions, which some might find offensive?
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Posted on: Apr. 29 2014,10:46 am |
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Not one of those quotes comes even close to what your fellow ignorant racist said.
Which one of those quotes say that blacks would be better off as slaves?
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Rosalind_Swenson
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Posted on: Apr. 29 2014,11:28 am |
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(Liberal @ Apr. 29 2014,10:46 am)
QUOTE Not one of those quotes comes even close to what your fellow ignorant racist said.
Which one of those quotes say that blacks would be better off as slaves?
You keep saying that as if he was advocating for slavery. Like I said, he's not a good public speaker by any means. He blames government policies for the problems blacks face and so do those other people. They worded their opinions differently.
Here's another group who thinks government policies have hurt minorities.
QUOTE Assess the impact of Federal policies, regulations, and programs of general applicability on boys and young men of color, so as to develop proposals that will enhance positive outcomes and eliminate or reduce negative ones. Data shows that boys and young men of color, regardless of socio-economic background, are disproportionately at risk throughout the journey from their youngest years to college and career. For instance, large disparities remain in reading proficiency, with 86 percent of black boys and 82 percent of Hispanic boys reading below proficiency levels by the fourth grade – compared to 58 percent of white boys reading below proficiency levels. Additionally, the disproportionate number of black and Hispanic young men who are unemployed or involved in the criminal justice system alone is a perilous drag on state budgets, and undermines family and community stability. These young men are more than six times as likely to be victims of murder than their white peers and account for almost half of the country’s murder victims each year. http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-pre...keeper-
I take his opinion as a very badly worded version of these other opinions. You and I will never agree on the meaning or intent of his words. I take the blame for derailing this topic. I'm done, so feel free to keep calling me names.
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Reading your posts I wonder if your not an ignorant racist.
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(Self-Banished @ Apr. 29 2014,10:27 am)
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QUOTE ^^Quit fooling yourself, this isn’t about free trade it’s about cheap labor, we’ve shot ourselves in the foot and we’re about to put a bullet in the other foot
We’ve changed China from an agrarian third world backwater to a well financed industrialized militaristic giant with our greed trade. how’s that working out for US! So you are one of the one's that feel sorry for yourself. What do you expect? A return to the industrial era of the fifties? You bitch about needing more regulations and that's the very thing that's been killing jobs.
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