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By Jay BusbeeDecember 10, 2013 12:46 PMYahoo News
In America, we're used to our government, our industry and our media putting a spin on events to make the world seem a brighter, better place than it really is. But some of China's media is showing some impressive spin talent of its own, with a rationalization for pollution that is, quite literally, breathtaking.

Much of China has been suffering through choking smog in recent weeks, which has hampered daily activities and forced the closure of schools. In response, state broadcaster CCTV published a list of reasons documenting the benefits of smog. Yes, benefits.

A Time magazine translator indicated the following CCTV rationalizations for smog:

1. It unifies the Chinese people.
2. It makes China more equal.
3. It raises citizen awareness of the cost of China’s economic development.
4. It makes people funnier.
5. It makes people more knowledgeable (of things like meteorology and the English word haze).

That's some interesting rationalization. Following that line of thinking, hurricanes also unify people by forcing them to leave their isolated homes and gather in collectives. Tornadoes give people a sense of the power of nature. Wildfires place everyone on an equal footing by burning everyone's possessions to the ground. See? The problem isn't nature, the problem is you.

Oh, but the campaign wasn't done. The Global Times, which is published by the Communist Party's official People's Daily, noted that smog has a defensive benefit. “Smog may affect people’s health and daily lives," the newspaper wrote, "but on the battlefield, it can serve as a defensive advantage in military operations." The article pointed to military operations in Kosovo and Saudi Arabia that used smoke as a means of obscuring the enemy's sight lines and fouling electronic equipment. This takes "we had to burn the village to save it" to a completely new level.

That's crazy. It's unbelievable how toxic China is. Too bad we can't put an embargo on the pollution from China. Our pollution problems aren't even remotely as bad as China, India and a few other countries, but our government and media aren't exactly open and honest about the pollution problem here. And since the US is the biggest consumer of products from these countries, we are part of the problem.

Schools all over the country have huge financial problems, yet many are spending a fortune on things like ipads for most, or all, of their students and smart boards for most, or all, of their classrooms. Parents don't have a choice to opt out, it's mandatory. The only choice given to the parents is if they want their child to leave the iPad at school overnight or bring it home. Since so many assignments now require the iPad, most have no choice but to bring them home. When our school asked for opinions on ipads for students, the only things asked of parents were things like "how important do you think technology is to better education?" "how much would you be willing to pay for your child to have an iPad?" When I or anyone else brought up that most homes already have computers, and that we think teaching children to be socially, environmentally and financially responsible are also very important, we were ignored. How much do freakin ipads and smart boards cost anyway? In the end, parents had to pay $60 for insurance and use. $25 if the student leaves the iPad at school. I doubt these items are going to improve education at all.

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^^they put jumper nets on the factories.
Besides, there are plenty of them.


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^^^no, it justs sucks to be them and better them than me.
Seriously, except for the elderly, sick or really handicapped I beleive a person is responsible for their own well being.


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A lot of grain is contracted for sale and delivery at a later date you can either pay the elevator to store it or store it on site, no surcharges involved. Farmers don't have surcharges they actually have to manage their business. The payments they receive insure a safe, affordable food supply for everyone.

I'm quite familiar how grain storage works(remember? I grew up on a real farm)

Fuel prices are a lot more instantaneous than other commodities. News of a refinery explosion or war in camel-jockey land will cause prices to skyrocket in hours. Takes a few days to adjust freight prices.

You and Irish ought to go out and buy two or three trucks, give it a whirl, see how you do. :thumbsup:

No, you grew up on a hobby farm, there is a difference. If you did grow up on a "real" farm you would realize that farm commodity prices change daily and can vary widely by location.

Maybe you need to go out and rent/ buy a couple thousand acres of farmland and a line of equipment to run it, source your inputs and " give it a whirl".  :thumbsup:

Btw, quite a few farmers run a trucking company as a side job to their main operation as they own several trucks and don't want them sitting around.
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No, you grew up on a hobby farm, there is a difference. If you did grow up on a "real" farm you would realize that farm commodity prices change daily and can vary widely by location.

Maybe you need to go out and rent/ buy a couple thousand acres of farmland and a line of equipment to run it, source your inputs and " give it a whirl".  :thumbsup:

Btw, quite a few farmers run a trucking company as a side job to their main operation as they own several trucks and don't want them sitting around.

The reason why a lot of grain farmers buy trucks is that it give them something to do in the off season when they're standing around with there fingers up their ass's.
Real farmers work year 'round. And yes, we rented land and bought equipment and cattle and hogs.

Holy crap! Took long enough to respond, usually you spew something ight away. That tough to come up with an answer or did you have to ask you union rep?
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Quick question Mopar, do you get that subsidy called "overtime"? :blush:

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How is overtime a subsidy?

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^^^if a fuel surcharge is a subsidy I suppose overtime is too.

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Overtime is agreed upon in advance by both parties. A surcharge is tacked on after the fact by one party.

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Overtime is agreed upon in advance by both parties. A surcharge is tacked on after the fact by one party.

So are these agreed upon or after the fact charges?

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Overtime is agreed upon in advance by both parties. A surcharge is tacked on after the fact by one party.

They don't have to pay it.

Overtime is law.


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