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Post Number: 171
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Santorini
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Posted on: Aug. 06 2013,2:51 pm |
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Patty Kimball is as liberal, left-tilted as they come. Always have found her letters meaningless and pointless and without facts or merit. She's a definite emotion writer. Patty Kimball is very misinformed on most subjects and always tries to put her own 'spin' on the regurgitated material she's spoon fed from the left-tilted media. Proof of it is in the letter just posted!!!
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Post Number: 172
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irisheyes
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Posted on: Aug. 07 2013,7:30 am |
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What facts do you folks have a problem with? Some conservatives think he had to die based on his dope using, hoodie wearing lifestyle. It's not about race, it's the dope using, hoodie wearing lifestyle that sealed Trayvon Martin's fate.
Here are some other FACTS, since Santorini, G.D., and Self-Banished all think the libs don't have the facts right. 1. Zimmerman chases a guy he claims is "suspicious". Note: For the people that call 911 A LOT, suspicious is code-word for profiling. Suspicious means you're young and/or dark and you're in the wrong area. Clearly "up to no good" in the words of Zimmerman. 2. Zimmerman fears that "these assholes always get away". He's heard huffing and puffing before he kills Trayvon Martin. 3. Trayvon Martin did not "get away", even though he was trying to. 4. He's told "we don't need you to do that", referring to following Trayvon while Martin is trying to get away. And I'll agree that he's not ordered to follow that advice. He wasn't charged with following the guy, killing the guy he followed is when it generally is seen as bad.
Here's some other important facts the press has been glued to. 1. Trayvon Martin may have used marijuana at one point in his life. 2. Trayvon Martin was suspended from school. 3. He was dressed in a way people have a problem with.
Combining the fact of how Martin used marijuana and was suspended at some point, and the way he was dressed. He was in the wrong neighborhood apparently. When you put it all together some in the NRA think that Trayvon Martin deserved to die.
I totally agree with the individual right to own and carry a gun. Where the gun lobby does a disservice to us all is thinking a CCW gives them some kind of 007 license to kill AFTER they start the conflict themselves. If they don't have to try to walk away before they pull the gun and shoot, we're all left in a more dangerous situation.
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Post Number: 173
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Grinning_Dragon
rideo draconigena
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Posted on: Aug. 07 2013,8:45 am |
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\yawn...
-------------- *SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS / MOLON LABE / Se Defendendo memoria of cado frater ,Semper fidelis *The object of war is NOT to DIE for YOUR Country, but to make the OTHER BASTARD DIE for HIS...Patton My Constitutional Rights trump your dead.
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Post Number: 174
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Self-Banished
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Posted on: Aug. 07 2013,6:42 pm |
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(irisheyes @ Aug. 07 2013,7:30 am)
QUOTE What facts do you folks have a problem with? Some conservatives think he had to die based on his dope using, hoodie wearing lifestyle. It's not about race, it's the dope using, hoodie wearing lifestyle that sealed Trayvon Martin's fate. Here are some other FACTS, since Santorini, G.D., and Self-Banished all think the libs don't have the facts right. 1. Zimmerman chases a guy he claims is "suspicious". Note: For the people that call 911 A LOT, suspicious is code-word for profiling. Suspicious means you're young and/or dark and you're in the wrong area. Clearly "up to no good" in the words of Zimmerman. 2. Zimmerman fears that "these assholes always get away". He's heard huffing and puffing before he kills Trayvon Martin. 3. Trayvon Martin did not "get away", even though he was trying to. 4. He's told "we don't need you to do that", referring to following Trayvon while Martin is trying to get away. And I'll agree that he's not ordered to follow that advice. He wasn't charged with following the guy, killing the guy he followed is when it generally is seen as bad. Here's some other important facts the press has been glued to. 1. Trayvon Martin may have used marijuana at one point in his life. 2. Trayvon Martin was suspended from school. 3. He was dressed in a way people have a problem with. Combining the fact of how Martin used marijuana and was suspended at some point, and the way he was dressed. He was in the wrong neighborhood apparently. When you put it all together some in the NRA think that Trayvon Martin deserved to die. I totally agree with the individual right to own and carry a gun. Where the gun lobby does a disservice to us all is thinking a CCW gives them some kind of 007 license to kill AFTER they start the conflict themselves. If they don't have to try to walk away before they pull the gun and shoot, we're all left in a more dangerous situation. Wow, you sure have a lotta facts, you must have been there . What you're using as facts are testimony, some of it from Zimmerman, some of it from neighbors. Treyvons father said it was his son screaming, Zimmerman's parents say it was their son. One neighbor says it looked like Treyvon on top wailing of Zimmerman, one said it looked like it was the other way around.
Point is there was reasonable doubt and the is the basis for finding guilt in this country(are you getting this?)You weren't there, the press(as much as they would like to put there conjecture on the event) wasn't there. Al Sharpton wasn't there to make a judgement,POOKIE THE MAGIC F#%ING BEAR WAS NOT THERE, IS THERE A GLIMMER OF INTELLIGENCE SEEPING THROUGH!?
The probable chain of events that happened that night were the hall monitor(Zimmerman) decided to play cop, Trayvon didn't like it, overreacted and started pounding on Zimmerman. Drugs be damned, they did or didn't play a part in it. Zimmerman, being on the bottom most likely had his nose broke and getting the back of his head bashed into the concrete.
Was this life threatening? Maybe, maybe not, none of us were there. I know that if this was happening to me this thought might cross my mind. If Trevonhad killed Zimmerman we wouldn't have heard squat about this.
All this was a vehicle for gun control, they didn't get enough traction from Sandy Hook so this was the next step, there was no SYG, no racial crap, just a case of self defense that should have never went to court.
As another poster on here so eloquently says, "'nuff said"
-------------- Remember boys and girls,
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Post Number: 175
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Self-Banished
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Posted on: Aug. 08 2013,5:19 pm |
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I saw this last night, now if we want to talk about chicken-sh!t human beings these take the grand prize. not a word from the so called "real news" outlets. From what I understand the kid being beat had refused drugs from the three cowards.
http://www.foxnews.com/us...-rights
-------------- Remember boys and girls,
Don’t be a Dick …
Or a “Wayne”
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Post Number: 176
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Memphis
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Posted on: Aug. 08 2013,6:51 pm |
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He was found NOT GUILTY by the best system in the world, a system for which men and women have died for to protect. Respect those men and women, and the system and move the hell on!
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Post Number: 177
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Liberal
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Posted on: Aug. 11 2013,8:31 pm |
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So was O.J.
-------------- The people are masters of both Congress and courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert it!
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Post Number: 178
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Self-Banished
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Posted on: Aug. 12 2013,5:06 am |
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^ damn nice point.
-------------- Remember boys and girls,
Don’t be a Dick …
Or a “Wayne”
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Post Number: 179
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