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At one time I had some respect for Ron but Rand is a total tool who shamelessly promotes himself on the hatemonger A.M. programs.

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Interestingly, holder defended actions of drone strikes saying; based on generations-old legal principles & Supreme Court decisions...United States citizenship alone does not make such individuals immune from being target.                       Kind of arbitrary definition!

It's the job of an attorney to use "legal principles & Supreme Court decisions".  What part of that is arbitrary in your mind?

Most conservatives didn't breath a word of criticism for drone strikes until January '09.  Personally, I'd like to see the targeted killings of citizens end for good, as well as the entire war on terror.  But let's do it regardless of whether there's an "R" or a "D" next to the name of the POTUS.

" such individuals" is what is arbitrary!!

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Thanks to the internet, that fact is becoming more well known.

That's because if it's on the internet it's true.

Bonjour!

Now that was good!!! Clever response :thumbsup:

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" such individuals" is what is arbitrary!!

Tell us again about your "advanced education"? :dunce:

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" such individuals" is what is arbitrary!!

Tell us again about your "advanced education"? :dunce:

That'd be akin to you explaining the concept of keeping an open mind.  :D

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" such individuals" is what is arbitrary!!

Tell us again about your "advanced education"? :dunce:

That'd be akin to you explaining the concept of keeping an open mind.  :D

If the govt uses term " such individuals"; who gets to define WHO "such individuals" are? What criteria is therefore used to determine who or what is a threat which would warrant the govt using drone strikes against its own citizens. " such individuals" leaves a lot to the imagination!

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If the govt uses term " such individuals"; who gets to define WHO "such individuals" are? What criteria is therefore used to determine who or what is a threat which would warrant the govt using drone strikes against its own citizens. " such individuals" leaves a lot to the imagination!

That could be anything from an Occupy protest to a compound of survivalist types in Montana.

Maybe we should revisit the tactics and thinking of Joseph McCarthy, just to put into context how quickly anyone, without the benefit of due process, can be defined as "the enemy."

If we're not protecting Liberty as defined in the Constitution and by the Founding Fathers, what are we protecting with things like warrantless wiretaps and domestic drone strikes? Ask yourselves that one.

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I think what has happened is our borders have been wide open for soooo long, the enemy is amongst us  :oops: and protocal needs to be set. Whether it be used against American Citizens is kind of a wait and see what happens. :(

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If the govt uses term " such individuals"; who gets to define WHO "such individuals" are? What criteria is therefore used to determine who or what is a threat which would warrant the govt using drone strikes against its own citizens. " such individuals" leaves a lot to the imagination!

"Such individuals" was defined clearly earlier. His actual statement.

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As I noted in my speech at Northwestern, "it is an unfortunate but undeniable fact" that a "small number" of U.S. citizens "have decided to commit violent attacks against their own country from abroad." Based on generations-old legal principles and Supreme Court decisions handed down during World War II, as well as during the current conflict, it is clear and logical that United States citizenship alone does not make such individuals immune from being targeted.


I think we can all agree on what "violent attack" means.

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I think we can all agree on what "violent attack" means.

I don't think so, given Israel has been given a pass on every one of these they've participated in. 'Violent attacks' has been given less and less of a literal interpretation of same, and become more and more of a political football, depending on who our supposed allies are at the time.

The U.S.S. Liberty incident should tell you everything you need to know about that.

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