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Meanwhile, the NBC, ABC and CBS evening newscasts combined for a dubious record last week: the average of 18.7 million people who watched one of the three shows last week was the smallest audience those three telecasts have reached collectively on record, since the infancy of television, Nielsen said.

During the slow news period of late August, the broadcasts broke their previous record — set just last week.

Little did I know that my post last week (at NewsBusters; at BizzyBlog) also covered a negative record-breaker.

The news actually got worse from there, Media Bistro's Chris Ariens separately reported:



Read more: http://newsbusters.org/#ixzz0yNsWn0uc


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Well, the dwindling audience must be due to the fact that these companies are on the wrong side of the political fence, ys suppose?
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What good is "news" if it is slanted? :dunno:

Who read Pravda and Tass, or listened to Russian State-run radio or television?

People are "voting" with their remote controls--and it doesn't look good for ABC, CBS, NBC, or CNN.

Fox News, in the meantime, is INCREASING viewers.  Time Magazine and Newsweek are failing--Newsweek sold for $1.  The Wall Street Journal has replaced the NY Times as the most-read newspaper in the U.S.

Is it any wonder that liberals want to get rid of the companies that have become popular with the people, and force them back into watching the government line? :p


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So, you think people are turning to Fox and the Wall Street Journal because...  They're tired of slanted news?   ???  That's like me saying I'm tired of unhealthy, high fat foods, so I think I'll start eating all my meals at KFC & Burger King.

Eminem is the best selling artist of the past decade, not just in rap, but of all music.  Does that mean that what he says is more relevant or reliable than country or gospel music?  No, it's entertainment.  And even Bernard Goldberg in his book on media bias acknowledged that as soon as ratings & money became the priority of news, the content would suffer.

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People are "voting" with their remote controls--and it doesn't look good for ABC, CBS, NBC, or CNN.


Just under 19 million watched the "government line", how many watched the kookery on FOX?


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So, you think people are turning to Fox and the Wall Street Journal because...  They're tired of slanted news?    


All right, why don't YOU tell us why Fox and WSJ have thrived and increasingly taken market share from the others, while the dog-washers for Obambi have not only declined, but have ACCELERATED that decline? :dunno:

Fox and WSJ have garnered a larger and larger share of the market.  Their gains have been at the expense of the former "mainstream" media networks.  CNN USED TO BE the powerhouse in news--until Fox came along.  Now they are an also-ran.

I know it has to hurt, watching what you believe in being rejected by the rest of the country, but you just have to get used to it--November is coming! :(


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Just under 19 million watched the "government line", how many watched the kookery on FOX?


That was for late-night entertainment--not news.  Don't worry, there are plenty of people like you that ENJOY watchng "Dancing with the Stars", "Deal or no Deal", or Oprah! :rofl:

If you want NEWS, most people turn to Fox--or read the WSJ. :rofl:   Libbies can continue to get their news from Colbert. :sarcasm:  

Here's the Cable News Ratings for Sept. 1, from TV by the numbers:

P2+ Total Day
FNC – 1,286,000 viewers
CNN – 439,000 viewers
MSNBC – 440,000 viewers
CNBC – 163,000 viewers
HLN – 258,000 viewers

P2+ Prime Time
FNC – 2,469,000 viewers
CNN – 593,000 viewers
MSNBC –998,000 viewers
CNBC – a scratch w/113,000 viewers
HLN – 405,000 viewers

For people that got their news for the DAY, Fox nearly matched all of the rest combined--1,286,000 to 1,300,000.

For PRIME TIME, Fox wiped the floor with the competition--2,469,000 to 2,109,000 for all of the rest COMBINED.

Why do YOU suppose so many viewers, listeners, and readers have deserted the lamestream media and turned to Fox and WSJ?


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All right, why don't YOU tell us why Fox and WSJ have thrived and increasingly taken market share from the others, while the dog-washers for Obambi have not only declined, but have ACCELERATED that decline? :dunno:

Fox and WSJ have garnered a larger and larger share of the market.  Their gains have been at the expense of the former "mainstream" media networks.  CNN USED TO BE the powerhouse in news--until Fox came along.  Now they are an also-ran.

Conservatives hate polling data, unless it says what they like.  That's why I never see any threads discussing Sunday morning ratings.  :p

Fox has always been the most biased on TV, but they became extreme more recently.  The best proof of this is that O'Reilly's popularity has declined because he's just not conservative enough.  But most people who vote aren't entertained as easily with chalkboards and theatrics.  Hearing Karl Rove, Sarah Palin, or conservative talk show hosts put their spin on current events might be entertaining, but it's not news.  That's like saying I get my news from Rush Limbaugh.

Sorry to digress, back to your question.  Have you seen the ratings for Meet the Press or This Week?  The networks are getting 2 or 3 million for each show, while Fox is hovering around 1 million.  They've got about 10 million for the networks in that time slot, and where is Fox? :dunno:

Either way, I don't know why conservatives think that popularity equals reliability.  I watch C-Span more than anything else for news, precisely because they're the most reliable I've seen.  But I don't think they're very popular.

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Doesn't hurt me.  Repubs lost big last time.  It's natural for the pendulum to swing the other way as the independents shift from one side to another.  But we didn't need that much time to reform healthcare & Wall Street.  And tax cuts to the rich will expire without us having to do anything.  Things are actually pretty good for the donks, we should be celebrating.   :beer:


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Doesn't hurt me.  Repubs lost big last time.  It's natural for the pendulum to swing the other way as the independents shift from one side to another.


"Repubs lost big"--but that's OK, because the Donks are going to lose even BIGGER? :p

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 Why do  you suppose that Obummer/Reid/Pelosi are so unpopular?  Do you suppose that most people were unhappy with the stench from the health care debacle? :p

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And tax cuts to the rich will expire without us having to do anything.
 Maybe your liberal news source hasn't told you, but those tax cuts aren't just for "the rich"--they will ALL be going up.  Maybe when Donks see their taxes going up (at least, those Donks that are WORKING! :D ) they'll finally see that the tax cuts weren't for "the rich!"  Face it--it will amount to a tax INCREASE for everybody--and you're PROUD of that?  And you wonder why the people are anti-incumbent?  It just goes to show how out of touch liberals have become :crazy:

Yes, the pendulum does swing--the party out of power usually loses 15 seats or so--but NOTHING like the coming bloodbath.

Obummer/Pelosi/Reid have enraged the voters THAT MUCH--and in only 18 months! :oops:  :rofl:


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Doesn't hurt me.  Repubs lost big last time.  It's natural for the pendulum to swing the other way as the independents shift from one side to another.


"Repubs lost big"--but that's OK, because the Donks are going to lose even BIGGER?

I don't know.  But we can compare the lost and gained seats to the 2008 election to this mid-term election in November.  But don't you always think the Donks are going to lose big?   :rofl:

Have you paid attention to the party of no's plans?  I realize that "republican plan" has become an oxymoron, but how are they going to balance the budget?



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But we didn't need that much time to reform healthcare & Wall Street
 Why do  you suppose that Obummer/Reid/Pelosi are so unpopular?  Do you suppose that most people were unhappy with the stench from the health care debacle?


They said they'd reform these things, and they did.  I guess in this country the only thing worse than breaking a campaign promise, is if you actually KEEP your promise!

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And tax cuts to the rich will expire without us having to do anything.
 Maybe your liberal news source hasn't told you, but those tax cuts aren't just for "the rich"--they will ALL be going up.


The news source I said I viewed the most is C-Span, and you call that a liberal news source?

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Maybe when Donks see their taxes going up (at least, those Donks that are WORKING! :D ) they'll finally see that the tax cuts weren't for "the rich!"


Well, I consider those making over a quarter-million to be rich.  I know plenty conservatives are claiming that those making over $250,000 a year are middle-class somehow, but even the median income in Palm Beach is half of that.  So yes, tax cuts for the rich will expire, those below that are planned to be continued.

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Face it--it will amount to a tax INCREASE for everybody--and you're PROUD of that?  And you wonder why the people are anti-incumbent?  It just goes to show how out of touch liberals have become


First off, INCREASE taxes for those over $250k (the rich), to bring it back to levels before the Bush tax cuts.  Still far below the levels of taxes before they decided to borrow money to "spread democracy".  

Second, you're starting to sound like Tom Emmer.  You keep faulting everyone else's plan, but how do you want to fund the wars or tax cuts?

I can respect someone having a REAL fiscally conservative opinion.  But then you have to accept that it would mean deep defense cuts.  Bases closing, cuts in VA funding, eliminating the wars.  Cut social programs just as much as defense if you like, but the math has to add up.  You can't advocate HUGE increases to defense spending (already the biggest cost of government), wars, and nation building and then say we want low taxes.


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