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Liberal 
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Posted on: Jan. 26 2004,12:50 pm |
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Last council meeting Roger Bok was up at the rostrum speaking and was ruled out of order for nothing more than offering his opinion about the dept heads.
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Roger Bok: that we have a lot of very good workers in this community and it’s the supervision that ain’t doing a very good job. And I can show you that right out there.
Mayor Eaton: Roger, you’re out of order. That’s enough.
Roger Bok: no, I’m not out of order you are.
Mayor Eaton: no, thank you for your comments.
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most of the exchange in the transcript was left out of official minutes so R. Bok asked the city clerk for an exact copy. The city clerk took a day to print out the two pages and then made Bok pay her $10.75 for the two pages.
Here are the two pages of the transcript that shows exactly what was really said.
Page 1 Pdf Format
Page 2 Pdf Format
Both pages in one MS word document
Here is a copy of what happened according to the abreviated minutes
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Roger Bok, 1012 Cato Drive, told the Council that he was the individual who told the man to shut up and noted that the man apologized to the Mayor. He also suggested that residents take their Christmas trees to the transfer station rather than dumping them in the old wastewater treatment plant area. He noted that the residents could also deliver their trash to the transfer station rather than paying for a clean-up day.
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So according to the official minutes R. Bok was never ruled out of order or forced to quit speaking 
This is exactly why we need video equipment.
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The people are masters of both Congress and courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert it!
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minnow
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Posted on: Jan. 26 2004,1:00 pm |
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But you don't seem to understand the burden that'd put on us. The asbestos alone will cost us millions...then there's the equipment upkeep, a seperate building to house the mics and cameras and ...well...you get the picture. It'll cost millions to record the meetings...
...no thankyou...
The city is just looking out for your taxes... 
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GEOKARJO
Google This!!!
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Posted on: Jan. 26 2004,1:25 pm |
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Ever hear of wireless, it is the latest thing, and would prove more cost effective.
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Nose for News
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Posted on: Jan. 26 2004,1:33 pm |
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What a difference in Cities (One embraces change the other opposes change)
Tuesday, January 06, 2004
News
Council's meetings are 'live'
By Lee Bonorden/Austin Daily Herald
The Austin City Council went "live" Monday night.
The first regular meeting of the new year marked the debut of the live broadcast of Austin City Council meetings.
According to Mayor Bonnie Rietz, the telecasts will be broadcast the first and third Mondays of each month at 5:30 p.m. "as they happen."
Previously, council meetings were broadcast on a taped-delayed basis each Saturday and Sunday, at 11 a.m. and 8 p.m. respectively, on the local public access channel provided by Charter Communications.
Rietz said the live telecasts were expected to generate more awareness among the citizens who watch them for local government.
"We have the capability of televising live the Austin City Planning Commission meetings, too," Rietz said. "And, the Austin Board of Education meets in council chambers, too, so those meetings could also be broadcast live."
The local access channel is number six for Charter Communications cable television subscribers.
On the initial live broadcast Monday night, citizens saw four long-time city employees honored upon their retirement.
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GEOKARJO
Google This!!!
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Posted on: Jan. 26 2004,1:35 pm |
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Ya think they did a legitimate 20,000 dollar study or was just someone's uneducated guess.
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guest
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Posted on: Jan. 26 2004,3:14 pm |
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If the minutes are normally abriviated then I am sure the clerk had to take the recording of the meeting out and retranscribe the section that Bok requested. Why shouldn't he have to pay for it? I personally do not think everything should be free. If someone wants something like that they should expect to pay for it.
Now onto the tone of the mayor. I do not see where Bok was out of line. He did not specifically address or name any individule. I can see if he named a particular person and then ripped on them, this was just general things that Bok wanted pointed out as areas that the City needs to work on. We should be able to do that and I would hope more people would start. At least then we would know that some people care enough about the community to point out where it needs improvements.
"Our critics are our true friends, for they do show us our faults." Ben Franklin
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Mr. Fun
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Posted on: Jan. 26 2004,3:46 pm |
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Mayor Jean-the same person who claims that the regional shopping mecca of Albert Lea draws in peple from 50 miles away.
As usual she is out of touch & out of line. Although I must say, she fits right in with the Albert Lea circus.
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Quotable Quotes
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Posted on: Jan. 26 2004,4:47 pm |
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"There's a sucker born every minute."
---David Hannum
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what?
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Posted on: Jan. 26 2004,7:06 pm |
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So guest, you think that anyone that wants the ACTUAL meeting minutes should have to pay for them?!! Are you serious? It is jobs like this that those people are paid for, so are we to pay people wages to not do their job and instead suplement their wage cost with even more taxpayer money?
Lord help us all.
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Montyman
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Posted on: Jan. 26 2004,9:25 pm |
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I listened to City Council meetings for years just to hear Roger Bok speak.
He was always entertaining, to say the least, especially when Marv Wangen was the Mayor.
It seems that nothing has changed. Minutes cannot do justice to his vocal intonations and inflections.
He even has moved up in the world, by attending a meeting of the Minnesota House Transportation Committee last year. The Chairman thanked him for attending, adding that "Mr. Bok, you're my kind of people. We all need to hear more from you."
After hearing that from the Chairman, Mr. Bok appeared to be a bit smug and sat down. Perhaps the Chairman really knew how to handle people, ya think?
I don't know if I agree for having to pay for minutes, but the Council could set such a policy if they wished, i believe.
Wireless equipment is getting better and better and could prove to be a good option for the City and County as well.
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Ignorant men raise questions that wise men answered a thousand years ago. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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