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Posted on: Feb. 03 2004,7:09 pm |
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Roger Bok was called out of order again at the last meeting. When Mayor Eaton was asked why she called Roger out of Order she said, "You were talking to loud"
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Council Meeting Transcript
January 26, 2004
Mayor Eaton: Yes. State your name and address.
Roger Bok: Good evening. My name is Roger Bok, 1012 Cato Drive. On this, ah, historic museum ... why doesn’t that all go the County and they can assess every piece of property? Why should Bev come here a couple times, you know, ask for money there’s 28 townships out there. Then she runs out there and looks for money. Did she go down to the County this time, or not? I would like that found out.
Mayor Eaton: Well, Roger, I think you can ask Bev if you would like to.
Roger Bok: Well, you’re the mayor, I would like to have you do it.
Mayor Eaton: Well, Roger, I think that that is going to have to come from somebody else.
Roger Bok: And the other thing is, after the last meeting I went down and I got a copy of some minutes. (pause) Two (2) pages of minutes: ten dollars and seventy-five cents. Now I would like a good explanation on this!
Paul Sparks: Well, first of all, I don’t know ... let me finish what I’m going to say before you start
Roger Bok: Alright go ahead.
Paul Sparks: contradicting me.
Roger Bok: I always let you
Paul Sparks: They aren’t minutes. They are a verbatim transcript of a portion of the meeting. Minutes are a synopsis of what occurred in a meeting. That’s a verbatim transcript and that required someone to transcribe the tape for the portion of the meeting that you requested. And that’s labor and that’s what we charged you for.
Roger Bok: Can I talk now?
Paul Sparks: Oh, certainly. I just wanted to answer.
Roger Bok: OK. Ok. Now I’ll talk, then you answer afterwards. Now, Minnesota Statute says ‘minutes will be available two (2) days after the meeting’ here. Now, so I walk
Paul Sparks: What Statute ... oh.
Roger Bok: I’m talkin’ now be quiet a minute.
Mayor Eaton: Roger?
Roger Bok: I walk into there. I ask for the minutes. I should read ‘em and I say I want a copy of this and I want a copy of that. When I get a copy of anything else it’s ah, 30 cents a copy.
Paul Sparks: But that’s a ... that’s not the minutes. That’s a verbatim transcript of the meeting a portion of the meeting.
Roger Bok: Can I talk now?
Paul Sparks: No, I’m just telling you what that is. Now my question is what was the Statute number? Would you mind telling me the recitation?
Roger Bok: Well, ah, I have all these answers, Paul, and I think it’s time a few other people start looking this stuff up.
Paul Sparks: We don’t know where that Statute is. It doesn’t exist.
Roger Bok: Would you like to rap the gavel, Jean Eaton?
Mayor Eaton: Yes, Roger
Roger Bok: You’re getting ready?
Mayor Eaton: I’m getting ready.
Roger Bok: Uh-huh. That’s right. You should read the rules.
Mayor Eaton: Roger? Watch it.
Roger Bok: Oh, you better watch it, too.
Mayor Eaton: (gavel raps) You’re out of order!
Roger Bok: Thank you.
Mayor Eaton: You are out of order, Roger!
Roger Bok: Thank you very much.
Mayor Eaton: Please sit down.
Roger Bok: No! You are out of order.
Mayor Eaton: Recess!
Roger Bok: Mmm-hmm.
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The people are masters of both Congress and courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert it!
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wowzers
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Posted on: Feb. 03 2004,7:23 pm |
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absolutly incredible.
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Montyman
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Posted on: Feb. 03 2004,9:30 pm |
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This has been going on for years, Liberal!
What's your point?
Remember, I do respect your opinion.
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Ignorant men raise questions that wise men answered a thousand years ago. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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minnow
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Posted on: Feb. 03 2004,9:32 pm |
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The point!? Well, it's not to except it like you do!
Typical Albert Lea Trash...
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guest
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Posted on: Feb. 04 2004,7:54 am |
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If Mr. Bok did not address people in the rude manner inwhich he does he would get much further. I am not saying that he does not bring up valid points, just that he is not very tackful. He seems to be a bitter old man that is just looking to argue with someone. Why didn't he answer the question that Mr. Sparks asked of him? Because he was making things up.
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MADDOG
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Posted on: Feb. 04 2004,8:42 am |
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Thanks, Info Man, but I already had the handbook.
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Actually my wife is especially happy when my google check arrives each month. Thanks to douchbags like you, I get paid just for getting you worked up. -Liberal
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minnow
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Posted on: Feb. 04 2004,9:50 am |
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True Guest, but the board is no better and could be described the same way. It's the blind leading the blind.
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The Advocate
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Posted on: Feb. 04 2004,9:05 pm |
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Does the Mayor, City Council and City Manager have a clue concerning the Freedom of Speech lawsuit against the County? They are traveling down that same slippery slope and could be in the same boat. Remember, they too ,have only used Rule 19 on Roger Bok and no one else, hence ,making an excellent case for the MCLU. Remember, Roger has a right to speak, and who is to say, if the volume of his vocals are any louder than anyone else that has ever addressed the Council? I wonder. Who is to judge content? Who is to judge rambling? The County and the City Council would be wise to require each individual to sign a form that states that individual will not scream at, use excessive swearing, threaten the Council or Commissioners prior to addressing them and then set a 5 minute limit on their address. The individual would be able to say basically whatever they want and to repeat as often as they like. It would be their time to address the Board.
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usmcr
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Posted on: Feb. 05 2004,7:15 am |
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does anyone have a clue wheter the 5 minute rule is applied to all speakers at the city council or is it used to applly to just those they want to suppress? if a person is going to address the council they should state their opinion with out asking any questions as once that is done your 5 minutes are history! it would seem that the 5 minute rule would apply to everyone regardless of who they were or what the topic might be about.
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"Do not confuse dissent with disloyalty" Edward R Murrow
Memento homo quia pulvis es, et in pulverem veverteris
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