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minnow 
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Posted on: Jan. 16 2004,7:15 pm |
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Check this excerpt, "Using the computers, they could retrieve information such as driving records, criminal histories and probation and parole records of people they have pulled over."
So....what does PAST records, criminal histories and probabtion and parole records have to do with determining if a crime is currently being committed?
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Posted on: Jan. 16 2004,8:29 pm |
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Right now if cops desire to snoop on people they have to go through the dispatcher. Now they'll be able to snoop in the privacy of their own cars. If a guy is speeding, how are his past traffic citations even relevant?
A crime is a crime and cops shouldn't search a persons history in order to decide if he'll be charged or not.
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Posted on: Jan. 16 2004,10:36 pm |
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Tribune 2002
Column: Crime prevention's wave of the future
By Sen. Grace Schwab, Senate District 27A
This week I had the opportunity to meet with Minnesota public safety officials to take a virtual tour of CriMNet, the groundbreaking criminal justice data system I worked to fund last session....
Last year the legislature significantly contributed toward that goal by investing $27 million in CriMNet, a program that will eventually allow police in any part of the state to instantly access a suspect's complete criminal history.
When completed, it will offer city, county, state and federal information on prior arrests, juvenile detention, court verdicts, prosecution, defense, jail or prison sentences and probation. The CriMNet program is serving as a national model of crime prevention efficiency.
In theory alone, CriMNet was easy to support. As a member of the Senate Crime Prevention Committee, I was proud to be a lead voice for last session's investment and I am pushing the legislature to consider bonding for further investments this year.
I am so proud of the achievements in information sharing that this project has delivered....
In all, the state has contributed $57 million to the CriMNet effort so far. Officials with the program say they will need approximately $200 million more to take CriMNet from the prototype stage to a fully operational form throughout the state...
I for one believe the work that has gone into CriMNet is amazing and I am more committed than ever to seeing it through.
Expert questions database's legality
BY PATRICK HOWE Associated Press
A state-run police database may be violating privacy protections in state records laws by, among other things, sharing information about who holds handgun permits, according to an analysis by the state's top expert on the law.
The Multiple Jurisdiction Network Organization is a collection of millions of police "contact" records that 175 police agencies in Minnesota and Wisconsin have agreed to share and jointly pay for.
Through a password-protected Web site sometimes available from squad cars, it provides officers the names of people who have found their way into police files for a variety of reasons. They can be listed, for example, as suspects, victims or as witnesses to crimes.
for more info http://www.tc.umn.edu/~hause011/article/Big_Brother.html
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TJ
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Posted on: Jan. 17 2004,12:22 am |
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hate to break it to you guys but most real police departments already have computers in their squads. Guess what, many departments also have cameras in their squads! It's not that big of a deal.
As per usual, Albert Lea is just behind the times.
While Albert Lea is living in the early to mid 90's, the rest of the state is moving on well into the next century.
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minnow
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Posted on: Jan. 17 2004,12:31 am |
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Wrong again. It's not the computer per say, we're talking about here. It's how they'll be used in the network.
Again...If a person is speeding, how is his past speeding history even relevant? He's either speeding or not. This is yet another tool governments and their agents can use to usurp even more civil rights.
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Jan. 17 2004,12:19 pm |
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Elwood Blues--in The Blues Brothers--"those guys got SCMODS--State, County Municipal Offender Data System". Fictional computers in squad cars. The movie was made in 1980--well before the advent of personal computers, or Algore's internet invention.
Life imitates art! 
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GEOKARJO
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Posted on: Jan. 17 2004,1:10 pm |
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In 1978 The N.C.I.C and the M.U.L.E.S. Law Enforcement Network Provided Background and information to law Enforcement Agencies nationwide. Information requested was recieved in 2 to 3 minutes.
The only difference between that and having the computer in the car is those nosey people who glue their ear to the scanner at night and ridicule and make fun of you for getting pulled over will stop.
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Montyman
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Posted on: Jan. 17 2004,5:22 pm |
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The MJNO network cost millions to create too, and it is gone (erased).
That made a whole $*#@load of sense.
The state net is still alive.
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Posted on: Jan. 18 2004,1:50 am |
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i don't think that everyone tells the police the correct information. a computer in the car would allow the police officer to check on who he is dealing with. it wouldn't be a determining factor for if someone is going to get a speeding ticket. it would also allow the police officer to find out if the person has any warrants or if the person is on probation and within conditions of release. open your minds and think about it! computers can be used for many different things.
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g-money
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Posted on: Jan. 18 2004,2:25 am |
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Naw, what it really means is everyone can expect police to fiddle with the puter for a good 15-30 minutes with virually every encounter, thus tying up police time
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