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Tiger 
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Posted on: Nov. 18 2003,3:53 pm |
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I just wanted to hear some views on this topic with what's going on in Massachusettes.
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minnow
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Posted on: Nov. 18 2003,5:06 pm |
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What do you mean right or wrong? It's neither right nor wrong... it's just a marriage. What business is it of yours if two people love each other and want to get married anyway?
Your tone is elitist...it's like saying. Girls wearing shorts...right or wrong? Who the hell are we to judge what is right and wrong or better yet..why should we?
It's none of my business if two people want to get married. Love is bigger than that.
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Tiger
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Posted on: Nov. 18 2003,5:18 pm |
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Finally minnow we agree on something!!! Sorry if my wording offended you, I should have asked if it should be legal or not. I just wanted to know some OPINIONS and I guess I got yours, not only about the topic but myself as well.
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GEOKARJO
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Posted on: Nov. 18 2003,6:22 pm |
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I will just say to each his own, just leave me alone.
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Spidey
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Posted on: Nov. 18 2003,7:03 pm |
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I disagree ... I think this issue is everyone's business. If you’re talking about a union between two people not being anyone’s business, then I agree with you. But ... I think the issue of two people NOT being able to get married because of their sex is everyone's issue if they value their rights, liberties, etc.
With that being said ...
There is absolutely NO reason two people shouldn’t be able to get married that is of legal age no matter what their sex is.
I suspect most prejudices stem from fear. Many people (even people that I know from Albert Lea and the surrounding areas) will damn homosexuals as though it's their duty. I believe they are afraid to condone homosexuality for fear their friends or peers may think they may be gay themselves for wanting “those people” to enter “our” world with all of "our" rules. Many people want to keep that seperation out of ignorance and fear.
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irisheyes
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Posted on: Nov. 18 2003,9:21 pm |
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Or... Maybe that's their opinion. You can speculate on, and on about why people feel the way they do about this issue. They have their opinion and you have yours, its as simple as that.
I think if they're going to change things why not make it like the courts in Vermont ruled, recognizing same sex unions. I don't think people should be discriminated by not being able to have their partner covered by their healthcare, or by not being able to leave their estate to that person, etc. But I think the majority in this country are against same sex marriages happening in their church, temple, or synogague. I don't know whether its right or wrong, I think its arrogant for anyone to think they do. When I die, maybe God will tell me.
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Spidey
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Posted on: Nov. 18 2003,10:28 pm |
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You are right ... my opinion ... my speculation, and I posted it here. I believe that's what we are all doing here ... that's what makes us people conversing.
| Quote | | But I think the majority in this country are against same sex marriages happening in their church, temple, or synogague. |
My belief is: I don't think a Church, Temple, Synogague, or any human being has a right to disclude another human being because they don't "love" the same way.
I've seen "Churches" or the like embrace murderers, rapists, child molestors, and thieves and welcome them back to the temple to be forgiven. But how dare you love someone differently then the norm. Doesn't this strike you as a bit odd?
| Quote | | I don't know whether its right or wrong, I think its arrogant for anyone to think they do. |
How can love be wrong? I don't think it's wrong ... are you calling me arrogant? It may be a twist of nature, or very different then you or I, but it's still love. No one is getting hurt. No one is forcing you to join in.
I believe these kinds of marriages need to be recognised and legalized in all states so they can also raise their families with insurance, health plans, etc.
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shaker
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Posted on: Nov. 18 2003,10:58 pm |
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So they can raise there families with insurance, health plans and etc--- What families? Don't seem to Me that two people of the same sex are going to produce much 
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irisheyes
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Posted on: Nov. 19 2003,12:27 am |
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| Quote (Spidey @ Nov. 18 2003,10:28:pm) | | How can love be wrong? I don't think it's wrong ... are you calling me arrogant? It may be a twist of nature, or very different then you or I, but it's still love. No one is getting hurt. No one is forcing you to join in. |
No, I was not calling you or anyone here arrogant, I'm sorry if it came out that way. Actually, I was thinking of Rosie O'Donnell when I typed that. 
This issue is a lot bigger than love, its about matrimony. The reason I have a problem with this is, that marriage has more to do with realigion than it does with the constitution. That's why I think they should stick with civil union's. After reading what the Bible says about homosexuals, its pretty difficult for the church to welcome them with open arms.
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Spidey
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Posted on: Nov. 19 2003,1:32 am |
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The bible doesn't "say" anything, people interpret messages from words written many years ago. In fact, there are many many interpretations resulting in many many religions. I for one would not want to be associated with a religion that would shun people because they don't love the right way. Keep in mind ... these people do love ... it's just not the way they are told to love.
It should never be difficult to welcome love with open arms. Anyone should be able to walk into any blessed building of their choice and talk with their god or spiritual connection.
I'm not sure, but I think some people have taken on "power" that doesn't belong to them. I highly doubt any higher entity would approve of people deciding who gets to talk to him/her or not. It's not "people's" call. Until God himself comes down and taps you on the shoulder and asks you to screen his calls ... I think the line is open.
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