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It's funny how you don't seem to have a problem with the government spending 10 million dollars on a local airport. I guess it's only wasteful government spending when there's nothing in it for you.

Haven't posted for a long time, but couldn't resist here...
That $10 million, or whatever amount it is, was for a project that was most likely selected from a list of projects that competed for a relatively small pool of money.  And given that the infrastructure in this fine country is about grade level 'D' on a scale of A-E, I am pleased that Albert Lea got the money.  On top of that the people who obtained the money should be commended.

The problem I see [from experience], is that project should have only cost 75%-80% of what it did because of the various rules, hoops, audits, wage rates, and other federal crap that comes from big government when we lucky people get some federal funding.

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Lets spin the Airport off, privatization seems to be the cry of you teapartiers..
Do you suppose there's a financial institution that would loan the airport ten million for an upgrade, not a chance, they'd want to know how are you going repay the loan..It's projects like this that have bankrupted America, this old boys club is a  financial tax burden on the working class..
IMO it should be sink or swim, the airport should pull it's own weight like any other business..
NO MORE TAX DOLLARS...


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There has got to be happy medium, jees you want goverment to run all our lives.  That seems kind of irresponsible.
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There has got to be happy medium, jees you want goverment to run all our lives.  That seems kind of irresponsible.

Where did MY post say anthing like that?
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Expatriate--95% of the cost of the project comes from the Airport and Airways Trust fund.

The 5% local share is LESS than the average annual maintenance.

It's like a car--at some point, it is cheaper to get a new one than to keep fixing the old one.

In this case, the old one lasted 55 years.

What a bitter person you are--the city spends $400,000 and gets a $9 airport that brings the city up to speed with the REST of the local communities that have LONG SINCE upgraded their airports.  We got at least an additional 15 years out of OUR airport.

Much of that money was spent here in town.  Exactly HOW IS IT that you believe in Keynesian Economics (government spending to stimulate jobs) but not THIS one? :dunno:  :p

Pilots, airplane owners, charter operators, and passengers have been paying the tax to the FAA for DECADES.  (Don't forget WHICH party implemented the tax). :laugh:

Would you have all of these people pay the tax and NOT GET ANYTHING BACK?  Sorry, I forget, that is EXACTLY WHAT LIBBIES WOULD HAVE US DO WITH SOCIALIST SECURITY! :oops:  :rofl:

I'll make you a deal--DON'T TAX US--for the airport OR for Socialist Security (or Mediscare, OR Obamacare) and let us deal with these issues ourselves. :thumbsup:

But that doesn't fit the libbie ideal of "redistribution of wealth by government." :oops:


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Once again Mr.Hanson leads the cheer for a handful of privileged individuals who utilize the Airport and some how deserve our tax dollars for their recreational enjoyment. Just because other podunks are squandering the nations wealth refurbishing desolate airports doesn't make it right or a smart return on our tax dollar..
It's a mathematical impossibility that this handful of pilots have paid tax or fees to come anywhere near this size of expenditure.
No this type expenditure is passed on to the common man in the form of increased  travel cost and out right taxation...


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It's like a car--at some point, it is cheaper to get a new one than to keep fixing the old one.

In this case, the old one lasted 55 years.

The school and courthouse lasted longer and you opposed both of those projects.


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(Liberal @ Aug. 25 2011,12:33 pm)
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Nervous about what? You don't actually think a teabagger could beat Obama, do you? :rofl:

Liberal, what you need to digest is that [Tea Party] is an ideology...the GROUP you refer to as [Tea Party] simply agree on this agenda, like;
Smaller Government
Job creation
Cut Wasteful spending
Pretty radical stuff wouldnt you agree :peaceout:


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Expatriate--
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Just because other podunks are squandering the nations wealth refurbishing desolate airports doesn't make it right or a smart return on our tax dollar..


Yep--Expatriate knows better than EVERY COMMUNITY IN THE COUNTRY.  Every OTHER community takes care of its airports, but Expatriate doesn't think it is a good idea.  :sarcasm:  :rofl:

Perhaps you would like to sever all exits from the freeways into town as well?  After all, I saw some people pulling a boat--others pulling campers.  Some people undoubtably were coming and going from sporting events--and we can't have people having FUN! :sarcasm:  :oops:

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It's a mathematical impossibility that this handful of pilots have paid tax or fees to come anywhere near this size of expenditure.
 As I said--most of us would be quite happy to have our gas taxes ELIMINATED and let airports take care of themselves.  

Several large airports did exactly that--until 2009, when the Obamunists cancelled the exemption that allowed them to institute their own taxes in lieu of Federal taxes.  You can't have it both ways, Expatriate--either fund it through dedicated taxes, or allow airports to go their own way.

You never did deny your hypocrisy in advocating for Keynsian "stimulus" money for "infrastructure" (in reality, most Obama money was spent on existing social programs)--while having your panties in a wad over local spending from a dedicated Federal fund.

Contrast the Airport and Airways Trust Fund with the State of Minnesota gas tax--only HALF of which goes for infrastructure--the rest going to social programs buy votes. :oops:


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It's like a car--at some point, it is cheaper to get a new one than to keep fixing the old one.

In this case, the old one lasted 55 years.

The school and courthouse lasted longer and you opposed both of those projects.

Those are BUILDINGS, dodo.  There's a big difference.  How many HIGHWAYS last that long without rebuilding? :p

Asphalt pavement rots from the bottom up.  At some point, it can't be resurfaced any more.

The hangars, the offices, and the furniture are 40 years old--but asphalt surfaces in Minnesota?  Not likely to last without maintenance.


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