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Post Number: 21
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bianca
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Posted on: Jul. 13 2009,3:15 pm |
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Maybe when you start asking questions that aren't conservatively biased questions I MIGHT think about it.
Your questions resemble the Scott Rasmussen poll reports that you constantly post poll numbers for ( if he doesn't lean toward the right then please tell why he commentates for FOX news as a frequent guest? )......when you, or Scott Rasmussen ask questions pointing in a conservative direction/slant ( robo-calls, in his case) chances are favorable that you're going to get answers that "slant" toward the loaded questions.
Hello......anyone in there that can understand where and why you refuse to see both sides of the topic. You might actually learn how to think fair and balanced if you get off the "right" side.
As an opinion....I don't know which generation is the greatest, something I would have to think about because I truly believe all of the generations have contributed and sacraficed for their children and grandchildren and sacraficed lives which has led us to being where we are today.
-------------- I believe in the patriotism and energy and initiative of the average man. Woodrow Wilson Early in life, I had to choose between honest arrogance and hypocritical humility. — Frank Lloyd Wright (1868-1959)
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Post Number: 22
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Jul. 13 2009,5:28 pm |
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Bianca QUOTE Maybe when you start asking questions that aren't conservatively biased questions I MIGHT think about it. Conservatively based questions? What's conservatively based about THESE questions--the ones you have twice avoided addressing. QUOTE Can you name any OTHER generations that went through not only depression and the greatest worldwide war in the history of the world?
Can you think of any OTHER generation where we had that many casualties?
Can you think of any OTHER generation where the country came together to oppose a common threat?
Can you think of any OTHER generation that sacrificed material comforts for the good of others?
Can you think of any OTHER generation that sacrificed so much for their own kids and grandkids?
Can you think of any OTHER generation that progressed so quickly--from an agrarian society to a superpower?
There's nothing "conservatively based" about these questions--why do you avoid them?
You don't think they DESERVE to be called the "Greatest Generation"--yet you refuse to name (or CAN'T name) a better one. WHY?
QUOTE Your questions resemble the Scott Rasmussen poll reports that you constantly post poll numbers for ( if he doesn't lean toward the right then please tell why he commentates for FOX news as a frequent guest? Much to the dismay of libbies, Rassmussen polls have been the closest in each election since 2000. If it makes you feel better, your brother consistently refuses to address the Gallup poll of June 15, showing TWICE as many people self-identify as conservatives as liberals. What's with the Haysons--you only accept the results you LIKE?
QUOTE As an opinion....I don't know which generation is the greatest, something I would have to think about because I truly believe all of the generations have contributed and sacraficed for their children and grandchildren and sacraficed lives which has led us to being where we are today.
Typical libbie--"There should be no winners, and losers--if I don't keep score, there won't BE any winners or losers. I'm helpless, and unable to make a decision. Maybe the GOVERNMENT will tell me what to think!"
Let's try this once again--S L O W L Y.
"Comparing to the generation that grew up during WW II and the the Depression--do you think that the Boomers sacrificed as much as they did?"
"Comparing to the generation that grew up during WW II and the Depression--do you think "Generation X" sacrificed as much as they did?"
"Compared to the generation that grew up during WW II and the Depression, do you think that "Generation Y (or "Why") sacrificed as much as they did?"
"Compared to the generation that grew up during WW II and the Depression, do you think that the generation between 1900 and 1925 sacrificed as much as they did?"
If the answer is YES to any of the above, tell us WHY.
See, that's not so hard, is it?
-------------- "If you want to anger a Conservative, tell him a lie. If you want to anger a LIBERAL, tell him the TRUTH!"
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Post Number: 23
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bianca
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Posted on: Jul. 13 2009,10:06 pm |
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I know one thing for sure....you have more spins than a tilt-a whirl.
Where did you get that I said they didn't DESERVE that title? Where do you get that I say/said that there is a better one? This doesn't have anything to do with whether I am a liberal or not. Get a grip!
Your opinion isn't the only one that matters, regardless of what you dream up.
QUOTE Maybe the GOVERNMENT will tell me what to think!
I think this quote identifies you, more than I. I can form my own opinion rather than taking Tom Brokaws word for it because he wrote a book on it.
For Gods sakes man, the questions you pose come straight out of the information given in wiki. Doesn't make it true, it is just given as an explanation of Tom Brokaws books. Please don't take wiki as the gospel, remember wiki CAN be edited which to me is far from reliable information but this I have told you time and time again. Wiki is not credible. Aaaargh!
Any original thoughts/opinions in that thick conservative head of yours??
Do I believe that every generation suffered or sacrificed for their children/grandchildren or sacrificed lives for our country? IMO, yes, as will generations to come.
This is my opinion, jim, whether you like it or not I can disagree with you and the world will not come to an end.
-------------- I believe in the patriotism and energy and initiative of the average man. Woodrow Wilson Early in life, I had to choose between honest arrogance and hypocritical humility. — Frank Lloyd Wright (1868-1959)
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Post Number: 24
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nphilbro
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Posted on: Jul. 13 2009,11:13 pm |
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Let's look at it from the point of view of the new recession. What do we do to conserve?
#1 - I bring my own bags to grocery stores. Kinda lame, but I find it easier.
#2 - I have tried to make the presents at my children's (4-6) birthday parties a donation in my child's name to a charity the family believes in or will find important to them for many years. My kids have so much crap already and they have parents and grandparents that will always provide.
I was overridden last year for my boy's b-day. That ecological disaster happened at McDonalds.
This year - it's fishing. In a public park with other boys 5-7 years. I will buy him a new bike. I will ask the parents to please donate to Swedish Childrens Fund, Ronald McDonald House, American Cancer Society, or another charity they would have always liked to donate to but never did. Each invitation will include an apple shaped piece of construction paper that will let them give the name of the charity as a present to my son.
I need to show my grandfather up. It won't be easy.
I don't care if they actually do it. I just want them to think about it.
Gen-X, we could be the new greatest generation.
-------------- Merely to try is to prepare for failure.
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Post Number: 25
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bianca
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Posted on: Jul. 14 2009,12:48 am |
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Exactly
-------------- I believe in the patriotism and energy and initiative of the average man. Woodrow Wilson Early in life, I had to choose between honest arrogance and hypocritical humility. — Frank Lloyd Wright (1868-1959)
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Post Number: 26
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davejar
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Posted on: Jul. 14 2009,1:54 am |
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(Common Citizen @ Jul. 09 2009,2:37 pm)
QUOTE QUOTE By John Sullivan | Published July 9, 2009 From the Boomer Market Advisor Watch Newsletter: Boomer Insurance Watch — July 9, 2009 Thank boomers for periods of low market volatility? Actually, yes. As Newsweek notes, there was a glorious time between the mid-1980s and 2007 when inflation was low, economies boomed, and recessions were short and infrequent. Economists have wracked their brains trying to explain this period of time. Some attribute it to the rise of China and India, which fed the world with low-cost goods. Others say it was Alan Greenspan's skilled manipulation of interest rates. Others think it was just blind luck. Now, two economists at the Minneapolis Federal Reserve say we have baby boomers to thank. According to the economists:
“We find that demographic change accounts for roughly one fifth to one third of the moderation experienced in the U.S. Clearly, demographic change is not the sole factor responsible for this episode; nevertheless, demographic change constitutes a common factor relevant for understanding the evolution of business cycle volatility — not only in the U.S., but also in other G7 countries — over the past four decades.”
In other words, as the article explains, age profiles had a lot to do with this long period of low volatility. The authors point out that young people are extremely susceptible to business cycle fluctuations. When the economy turns south, they lose their jobs faster than everyone else, since they're seen as inexperienced and often transitory labor. Middle-aged careerists are less expendable, both because of their social situation (families to take care of, mortgages to pay) and their on-the-job experience, which is more highly valued in a soft economy. This guy is just making up stuff. Where is the hard evidence to back up what he says? It would take a lot of research and several finely tuned polls to ferret out any conclusions about the last 27 years in the financial world...
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Post Number: 27
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Paul Harvey
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Posted on: Jul. 14 2009,2:22 am |
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Ya, I guess you're the arbiter of what's made up.
-------------- ~I love trolling n00bs and pwning assholes~
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Post Number: 28
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Spock of Vulcan
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Posted on: Jul. 14 2009,8:57 am |
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Scott Rasmussen poll = make up your own numbers
I should get into the fake poll business myself, lol.
-------------- I will see my dreams come alive at last. I will touch the sky. Go where my heart will take me. I have the faith to believe. I can reach any star...I've got faith... faith of the heart ~Star Trek Enterprise~ "Live, long... and prosper..."
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Post Number: 30
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Jul. 14 2009,1:44 pm |
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Bianca QUOTE Where did you get that I said they didn't DESERVE that title? Where do you get that I say/said that there is a better one
MAYBE IT WOULD BE FROM YOUR POST YESTERDAY?
Bianca QUOTE Not so sure on the greatest generation though jim. Most of them are/were definitely great at pinching pennies but some of them to too much of an extreme. Doesn't help stimulate the economy much when hundreds of thousands of dollars are stored in their basement freezer because they are "afraid" the banks are going bust.
QUOTE Your opinion isn't the only one that matters, regardless of what you dream up. Yes, it IS my opinion--one that MOST Americans share. You, apparently, DO NOT--yet YOU CAN'T (or REFUSE to) NAME A BETTER ONE.
QUOTE I think this quote identifies you, more than I. I can form my own opinion rather than taking Tom Brokaws word for it because he wrote a book on it.
For Gods sakes man, the questions you pose come straight out of the information given in wiki. Doesn't make it true, it is just given as an explanation of Tom Brokaws books. Please don't take wiki as the gospel, remember wiki CAN be edited which to me is far from reliable information but this I have told you time and time again. Wiki is not credible. Aaaargh!
I mentioned Tom Brokaw--but only because he wrote the book by that name--the basis for many people's agreement and perhaps the biggest factor in the use of the term. He is also a libbie--a bone I threw to you to help you relate.
Contrary to your assertion, I've never looked at the wiki website on Brokaw OR his book--I've simple READ it.
I've asked you SEVERAL times for YOUR opinion, and WHY you think so--but you consistently duck the questions. Why?
This is the OPINION section in a DISCUSSION forum--tell us WHY you don't think they deserve this, and who would be better?
You DO have your OWN opinion, do you not?
-------------- "If you want to anger a Conservative, tell him a lie. If you want to anger a LIBERAL, tell him the TRUTH!"
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