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hot84svo
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Posted on: Oct. 07 2008,10:10 am |
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As I expected.... mumbo jumbo to confuse joe six pack...
No mention of % fund to each area in ballot wording.
What is defined to be Art's and Culture? How the heck does it relate to clean water and water resources?
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Post Number: 13
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MADDOG
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Posted on: Oct. 07 2008,2:01 pm |
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I wouldn't have expected anything less from the tax and spend dem.
Not a single one of us believes in pork barrel spending.
If you vote yes, you're a pork barrel spender.
Better yet, if you're confused, just don't vote on the measured at all.
-------------- Actually my wife is especially happy when my google check arrives each month. Thanks to douchbags like you, I get paid just for getting you worked up. -Liberal
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Post Number: 14
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hot84svo
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Posted on: Oct. 07 2008,2:08 pm |
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Any ballots without a vote will be counted as a NO on Robin Brown's sponsored $11 billion tax increase.
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Post Number: 15
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Common Citizen
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Posted on: Oct. 09 2008,9:50 am |
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Poll Shows Voters Split
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ICU812
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Posted on: Oct. 09 2008,9:56 am |
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link no good
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MADDOG
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Posted on: Oct. 09 2008,10:07 am |
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Try this one.
-------------- Actually my wife is especially happy when my google check arrives each month. Thanks to douchbags like you, I get paid just for getting you worked up. -Liberal
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MADDOG
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Posted on: Oct. 09 2008,10:18 am |
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say no ad.
-------------- Actually my wife is especially happy when my google check arrives each month. Thanks to douchbags like you, I get paid just for getting you worked up. -Liberal
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MADDOG
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Posted on: Oct. 15 2008,12:49 am |
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10 Reasons Why You Should Vote No QUOTE 1. It’s $11 billion out of Minnesotan’s pockets. The almost half percent sales tax increase will generate $11 billion over 25 years, paid for by you, the taxpayer, and given into the hands of government.
2. It’s a Constitutional Amendment. If passed, the question on the ballot will be an amendment to the state Constitution, which will never go away. The Constitution is a document formed for the purposes of giving rights to the people and limiting the rights of government. A mandated tax increase and a mandated way to spend that money is an abuse of the state Constitution.
3. It mandates where $300 million each year will be spent. If passed, $300 million each year will be dedicated solely for the purposes of the arts and outdoors. Although these things are important, the role of the state legislature is to decide where taxpayer dollars are spent each 2-year budget cycle. We elect representatives to the legislature to prioritize spending. This amendment would allow $300 million of taxpayer money to bypass the legislative process and force them to spend it on the arts and outdoors, even if that year there were higher-priority needs for other things, like roads and education.
4. There’s no lack of current funds. Although few know it, millions of taxpayer dollars already go to fund environmental projects. The Department of Natural Resources has a 2-year budget of $1.5 billion. A portion of the state lottery proceeds goes to the Environmental and Natural Resources Trust Fund. The market value of this fund is currently at $415 million. Clearly, there is no lack of funding for environmental projects.
5. We can’t follow the money. If this tax increase passes, hundreds of non-profit organizations will lobby to get their hands on these government grants. As opposed to government departments, non-profits do not have to report where and how they spend their money. Once these non-profits receive government grants from the dedicated funding, taxpayers will never see where their money is spent.
6. It creates a scary precedent. This will be a precedent-setting amendment if it passes. Once our Constitution begins to dedicate money to specific spending projects, there will be no end in sight of coalitions and special interests enticed to seek constitutionally dedicated funding for their own pet projects. Just in September, Speaker Anderson-Kelliher (D-Minneapolis) mentioned she can now start planning a constitutionally dedicated gas tax. If this $11 billion ballot question passes, we can guarantee we’ll see many more and many higher tax increases on future ballots.
7. The first version of the bill was better. The tax increase on the ballot didn’t start out as a tax increase at all. Initially the idea was a bill to dedicate a portion of the existing sales tax to environmental conservation programs only. But that plan proved unpopular with liberal legislators who didn’t want to divert current sales tax revenue to rural environmental programs. So instead they are asking voters to increase the state’s sales tax by an additional almost half a percent and direct billions of those dollars to arts and cultural heritage.
8. Look who’s supporting this tax increase. Just looking at the 200+ groups supporting this tax increase shows that this is nothing more than a slush fund for special interest groups. Over half of the groups are arts and theater organizations. The only reason they are supporting this and are willing to give large donations to the vote yes campaign is because they know they will receive free taxpayer dollars if it passes. Don’t let them tell you this is for Minnesota’s outdoor heritage alone; billions of dollars will go to art and theater organizations.
9. The government is not a charity. We’re all supporters of the outdoors and we all love beautiful Minnesota. But that doesn’t mean the government should mandate a tax on Minnesotans so that non-profit organizations can get funding. Thousands of non-profits exist strictly off of charitable donations from people who support their causes. There’s no reason that these organizations should be any different. For infrastructure and environmental projects that benefit all of Minnesota, there’s plenty of money available through the DNR and the lottery.
10. We already pay enough taxes. Minnesota is home to one of the highest sales tax rates (6.5%) in the country, plus we have a high income tax rate too. If the ballot question passes, the sales tax will increase to 6.875%. Next add county and city sales taxes already implemented, and in Hennepin County alone, we’re looking at almost an 8% sales tax.
-------------- Actually my wife is especially happy when my google check arrives each month. Thanks to douchbags like you, I get paid just for getting you worked up. -Liberal
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Oct. 15 2008,2:34 pm |
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With the local option sales tax to "clean up the lakes", we would not only have sales tax over 7%, but we would be taxing ourselves a THIRD time for the same thing--once for the Watershed, once for the local option, and once again for this hare-brained scheme.
Voters in EVERY county in Minnesota should review the map I made a couple of years ago, showing population gains and losses. The counties in Orange had static or declining populations.
What are the chances that EVERY county that borders Iowa had a loss?
What are the chances that EVERY county that borders South Dakota had a loss?
What are the chances that EVERY county that borders North Dakota (except one--it borders Fargo, N.D.) had a loss?
What are the chances that 26 out of the 35 border counties had a population loss?
The answer--would you rather live in a high-tax state, or move a few miles to a lower tax state? If you were a business, where would YOU locate?
This is bad for residents, bad for business, and bad for Freeborn County.
Send a copy of the map to your legislator.
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