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jimhanson 
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Posted on: Nov. 30 2007,4:56 pm |
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Most conservatives are pushing for Hillary! 
Especially after this poll by Zogby nullMy Webpage The only problem--it's a Zogby poll--not too reliable. It also shows Obama and Edwards as being more electable than she is.
The RealClearPolitics compendium of polls shows Giuliani and McCain within the margin of error against her--but Obama does better. My Webpage
On the topic of world-wide conservative/liberal leaders, Germany also has a center-right Chancellor. Who would have thought--Germany, France, and Canada having conservative governments.
Regarding labor Prime Ministers in England and Australia--I don't view that as a real barometer of sea change--though the PM is Labor (as was Blair) England is still keeping a pretty conservative (for them) course--much to the disappointment of the traditional laborites.
Though the PM of Australia governs with a Labor coalition, he does so with ties also to the conservatives. He has broken precedents with the Labor party all along--refusing to appoint cronies on the basis of party seniority, living in the government house only for State functions, etc. He wants Australian troops out of Iraq, but will not set a date. On the other hand, he does have the liberal "apology" disease--he wants to make a national apology to the aborigines. Too early to tell how he will govern.
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TameThaTane
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Posted on: Nov. 30 2007,5:33 pm |
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Ron Paul's the best candidate, but America's too stupid to vote him in.
Obama would be a generational change which is sorely needed. So tired of this 40 year battle of hippies VS conservatives. SO tired of the Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton dynasty. Not a dimes worth of difference between any of em.
One certainty though is Republicans can't win because of the the war in Iraq. It's one reason why McCain tanked. He was most vocal about it. It's shocks the senses any Republican thinks he can win by being pro war. When we gets down to 1 on 1 debates the Republicans are going to get killed. This war..a lie, can't be defended.
Ron Paul could beat Obama, but even Hillary could beat any Republican handily. I've never seen Americans more upset over anything in my life. They all know they were lied to and there'll be hell to pay. Mark my words. It's funny Jim even thinks there's a chance. He's such a partisan. Blindly follows the GOP. I'm a Republican, but know when to speak up when I see my party's clearly wrong.
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Dec. 01 2007,11:29 am |
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Did you even bother to look at the links? I have NEVER put much faith in the Zogby poll (they were one of the pollsters predicting a Kerry blowout) but they show ANY of the top five beating the Hildabeast.
If you checked the other link, it shows ALL of the major polls. Most of the polls are within 3%--the margin of error. Hardly a Clinton blow-out, is it? 
And how is simply posting links to these polls partisan? 
QUOTE Blindly follows the GOP. If you had been paying attention, I've mentioned that not only have I not donated to the GOP for nearly a decade (I give to the NRA--ANY office seeker can claim the money--but few libs do) voted for Ventura, Perot, Penny--on record as saying I would vote for Lieberman, on record as opposing McCain--on record as stating that there is little philosophical difference between the parties.
You fail to differentiate between supporting Conservatives and the GOP--the Repubs have abandoned their principles and become "Donk Lite"--the reason I quit actively participating. Give your money to causes you believe in--and let anybody that can prove they need it step up and claim it.
As far as which way I'd vote--show me the most conservative candidate, (like Perot and Penny) and I'll support them. I haven't seen any conservative Dems in years that we are eligible to vote for--have you? The Dems have been hijacked by the extreme left--Soros, Daily Kos, Hollywood.
The irony is--you label yourself as a Republican. Are you conservative, or have you become the "neo-Republicans"? If so, what differentiates you from the Donks? Perhaps YOU would care to defend them?
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hymiebravo
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Posted on: Dec. 01 2007,1:10 pm |
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I thought he said he was a Libertarian.
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TameThaTane
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Posted on: Dec. 01 2007,1:47 pm |
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Republicans used to be libertarians.
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My choice is what I choose to do,
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Your choice is who you choose to be,
And if you're causin' no harm, then you're alright with me.
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hymiebravo
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Posted on: Dec. 01 2007,2:16 pm |
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It is quite the quandary though.
Saying..." look man, we're sorry we tried to wipe you off the face of the earth. Can I have a hug ? " doesn't sound that great either.
But you never know it may have very positive results.
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hairhertz
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Posted on: Dec. 01 2007,4:59 pm |
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I'd hazard a guess that most of the realtors in town are sitting around twiddling their thumbs waiting for a customer to stop in. Any of them would probably be willing to give you a grand tour of the town with a long monolog [sp?] about the pros & cons of each neighborhood.
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Common Citizen
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Posted on: Dec. 02 2007,8:34 am |
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Ron Paul is an isolationist...just listen to his retoric...wait a minute...wasn't Hitler an isolationist prior to WWII?
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TameThaTane
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Posted on: Dec. 02 2007,8:57 am |
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I see the logic, the linkage. You're brilliant. Ron Paul IS Hitler! Ya...that's the ticket...
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My choice is what I choose to do,
And if I'm causing no harm, it shouldn't bother you.
Your choice is who you choose to be,
And if you're causin' no harm, then you're alright with me.
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