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Common Citizen 
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Posted on: Feb. 18 2008,8:56 am |
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You still didn't answer my question. How is it Bush's fault that,
QUOTE people do not have extra funds laying around to invest. They have to concentrate more on trying to keep food in the house, a roof over their head, and gas in their vehicle.
So you don't agree with my previous statement then? Just wondering, because if you can not comprehend the quote below then we will never agree on the governments role vs. personal responsibility. If you don't agree then you truly believe that the gov't should be in ourlives from cradle to grave, directing our lives at every turn.
QUOTE See, all the problems you've just describe are self-imposed and have nothing to do with the Bush administration. I get fed up with people blaming someone else for their predicaments. If people would spend more time working on their own problems and bettering themselves and less time on pointing fingers, we'd be a better nation for it.
You're new list,
QUOTE Runaway pharmacutical.
Runaway gas prices.
Runaway medical costs.
Food prices skyrocketing.
Unsafe drugs put on the market.
Energy costs soaring.
is not a one party issue. It seems that Clinton spent 8 years in office. What did he do to solve the problems you claim we've had since Reagan? I am not trying to defend any party. I am trying to get the point across that the problems you mentioned can be solved by ourselves without the dependence on the government. If Clinton was in office today, I would have asked the same question. But then again, would you have had the same complaints if a donk was in office? 
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fredbear
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Posted on: Feb. 18 2008,9:01 am |
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Logical, intelligent, stick-to-your-guns, no insult comeback.
Typical TTT reply, "I'm wrong, but at least I came out and made a fool of myself and you didn't". Oh, wait you didn't admit to being wrong.
I don't make predictions whose outcome is based on the whims of the American people. There's just too many idiots such as yourself out there.
But I also don't guarantee stupid crap that comes to me in a THC induced haze...you silly loser.
I said you were maybe 50% right - that's the Dem candidate...dumbass
Any other guarantees?
P.S. - nice to see you admit to riding the short bus once.
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scorenix
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Posted on: Feb. 18 2008,11:31 am |
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(Common Citizen @ Feb. 15 2008,2:14 pm)
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That’s why I want to see more substance and less poetry.
Why provide substance when a mere speech talking of hope, talking of promise, seems to get the huddle masses following him?
Turns out one of his latest speeches was taken directly from the speech given by the Governor of Massataxes. Directly "copied" without acknowledgment. Of course now the governor of Massataxes says he and Obama are close. They talk often. And they talked of him saying those words. Yeah, right.
And a presidential candidate that quit smoking as soon as running for president, because, well, it won't look right?
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hymiebravo
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Posted on: Feb. 18 2008,12:33 pm |
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You don't like that???
Obama sitting outside the Whitehouse sucking on a "heater" "keeping it real".
They had a funny bit on I think it was Letterman the other night. It started out talking about how this election. There is a chance for history to be made. With the election of either a woman or a black man.
Then it cuts to - something like - well don't forget... there's still an "old white guy" running too. The Republican party. Electing "old white guys" since 1776 or something.
I thought it was kind of funny. I got a chuckle out of it.
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Common Citizen
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Posted on: Feb. 18 2008,1:21 pm |
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(grassman @ Feb. 18 2008,2:20 am)
QUOTE I also like to see how far one will go to defend their party, right or wrong. You really believe what your party tells you, How quaint.
Let's see some of the fall out of the republican party. Feel free to add a few if you can think of them.
Starting back when Reagan took away alot of regulation.
Runaway pharmacutical.
Runaway gas prices.
Runaway medical costs.
Food prices skyrocketing.
Unsafe drugs put on the market.
Energy costs soaring.
Company brass making huge profits while sticking it to the little guy.
You see, Reagan had this vision that if the wealthy make alot of money they will let it trickle down to the rest of the public. Well, we all know the wealthy loves more wealth so they turned the tap off and kept it for themselves.
It all comes down to greed and not caring about anyone else.
When drug companies put out a drug that they know will kill people ,yet fail to remove it because of the riches, what do you call that. I call that the free for all this country has become.
In ancient times, a King had a boulder placed on a
roadway. Then he hid himself and watched to see if
anyone would remove the huge rock Some of the
king's wealthiest merchants and courtiers came by
and simply walked around it. Many loudly blamed the
King for not keeping the roads clear, but none did
anything about getting the stone out of the way.
Then a peasant came along carrying a load of
vegetables. Upon approaching the boulder, the
peasant laid down his burden and tried to move the
stone to the side of the road. After much pushing
and straining, he finally succeeded. After the
peasant picked up his load of vegetables, he noticed
a purse lying in the road where the boulder had
been. The purse contained many gold coins and a note
from the King indicating that the gold was for the
person who removed the boulder from the roadway. The
peasant learned what many of us never understand!
Every obstacle presents an opportunity to improve our condition.
The only difference between what you're saying and what I'm saying is that you would rather wait for the government to come and help move the boulder out of the way. IMO.
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TameThaTane
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Posted on: Feb. 18 2008,1:37 pm |
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LOL what a load of BS! 
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My choice is what I choose to do,
And if I'm causing no harm, it shouldn't bother you.
Your choice is who you choose to be,
And if you're causin' no harm, then you're alright with me.
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Common Citizen
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Posted on: Feb. 18 2008,4:45 pm |
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(bianca @ Feb. 18 2008,4:08 pm)
QUOTE QUOTE I don't know about you but having a Republican president was great for my family. How did President do that for you and your family by himself? QUOTE I think that congress and the administration can be blamed for somethings that happen from the policies they implement. ....tell me again how President Bush did anything "noble" or worthwhile by himself when Congress is always involved in decisions? What great things did President Bush do in your eyes that he will be remebered for, based solely on his decision? It's all just a crap shoot....locally or nationally. Of course they are going to promise us the moon, that's not only part of politics but competition. No matter who is ever in there...Dem or Repub have they ever been able to deliver on all of the promises they made?
Financially:
Economic Growth And Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 (EGTRRA)
Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003
Security:
The war on terrorist
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grassman
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Posted on: Feb. 19 2008,10:17 am |
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The President picks his cabinet. Bush's cabinet runs the country sort of speak. Our war on terror in Iraq was based on lies. If you don't see that, that is really too bad. This war has financially been a boon for some of Bush's associates. How many billion dollars have we pumped into an endless war? How many of those dollars have been spent wisely? I just came back from Kansas City and was really pissed at the shape of some of the freeway I had to drive on. We can pump all that money into Iraq, while our very own infrastructure dissolves.
This country is going to hell in a hand basket. Jobs are going to other countries. The companies that do build here automatically have their hand out to see what the govt. will give them. How in the world did that ever get started?
The working class struggles to keep up with rising cost of living,while the top brass pats each other on the back on how well they have kept costs down, here's a bonus.
Granted the whole govt. has had some sort of play in what has happened. I just hope things can be fixxed before a total collapse.
The republican way of spending is, buy now and pay later. What happens when later knocks on the door? What an inheritance for the young.
CC you might be comfortable now, but when the not so well off have nothing left to give up, it'll be your turn.
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