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Question: Are we in a Recession? :: Total Votes:66
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Yes 38  [57.58%]
No 21  [31.82%]
maybe 4  [6.06%]
i don't know 3  [4.55%]
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and how should we protect ourselves?

Everyone even those who don't have a lot of cash should stock pile two months worth food and essential survival supplies. If this thing really goes south there'll be a disruption in the supply-chain.. a few shotgun shells may come in handy for barter if nothing else..
Things will settle out, we may be issued a new currency or we may continue with the a devalued greenback..
The biggest thing you can do is oust the Republicans, and their supply-sider voodoo economic theories, we'll never get a third party candidate elected so hopefully Obama will be this centuries Roosevelt....
 
spend'em if you got'em....

Everyone even those who don't have a lot of cash should stock pile two months worth food and essential survival supplies. If this thing really goes south there'll be a disruption in the supply-chain.. a few shotgun shells may come in handy for barter if nothing else..
Things will settle out, we may be issued a new currency or we may continue with the a devalued greenback..
The biggest thing you can do is oust the Republicans, and their supply-sider voodoo economic theories, we'll never get a third party candidate elected so hopefully Obama will be this centuries Roosevelt....

I've got three months worth and getting more.

The next Roosevelt? God help us.


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These companies have bee building a house of cards ever since Reagan deregulated everything.They have been rigging and robbing America all in the name of capital gains. Now the foundation is collapsing and they have their hand out wanting a govt. bailout. Talk about takers.  :angry:

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so hopefully Obama will be this centuries Roosevelt....


Yeah, because gov't programs always work out so well for the citizens.  You know, social security, the VA, etc..
All fiscally sound and well run programs by you guessed it... THE GOV'T  :rofl:

Just what we need some guy to institute more gov't programs and more tax dollars being wasted on the gov't beaurocracy in the name of progress for 'the people'  :dunce:

I'm voting for Bob Barr, as I don't like the current front runners. At least he'd for getting rid of one of the worst fed groups, the IRS :peaceout:


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I said 8 years ago if Bush got in there and pursues his foreign policy we will end up in a recession if not a depression before he was through. You can't pull almost 2 trillion dollars out of the domestic economy and expect it to prosper. The funding for the war has to come from somewhere. The government is using up all available credit and then some. You can't strip a hot economy and not get grim results. It seems to me the same thing happened during the Vietnam war.
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These companies have bee building a house of cards ever since Reagan deregulated everything.They have been rigging and robbing America all in the name of capital gains. Now the foundation is collapsing and they have their hand out wanting a govt. bailout. Talk about takers.  :angry:

Deregualtion created this?   :rofl:  :rofl:

C'mon grassman...so why did Freddie and Fannie fail?  A couple of the most regulated companies in the USA.  It's because of gov't regulation that put these companies in the position they are today...

By the way...how many prior executives from these two companies are advisors to the Obama campaign?   :rofl:  :rofl:
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I said 8 years ago if Bush got in there and pursues his foreign policy we will end up in a recession if not a depression before he was through. You can't pull almost 2 trillion dollars out of the domestic economy and expect it to prosper. The funding for the war has to come from somewhere. The government is using up all available credit and then some. You can't strip a hot economy and not get grim results. It seems to me the same thing happened during the Vietnam war.

Ya the war is Bush's fault...  He was behind 9/11.    :crazy:

I suppose you would rather cower in a cave somewhere in Mesa, Az.  Pfft...

Gov't regualtion and taxation is the cause behind the financial whirlwind we're in today...

nuff said...
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oh, why did we go to war? Oh, thats right weapons of mass distruction, he was going to commit us there regardless,
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Nope...not going to rehash that again...if you don't get it by now (7 years later) you never will.  Go back and read all the multitude of posts on that subject...

Like I said.

nuff said...
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These companies have bee building a house of cards ever since Reagan deregulated everything.


Wrong again.  It wasn't Reagan, and it wasn't Bush.  It was none other than your own Bill Clinton.

When the deductability of executive salaries was enacted in 1993, this was predicted.  Stock options were allowed--if a company made money, the executives made money.

I recalled the debate at the time (one of the advantages of being "older") :laugh:  and looked it up.  Here's an excerpt from Business Week nullMy Webpage

As the article mentions, it is perhaps the biggest insider joke in corporate boardrooms in decades.

In true government fashion, the libbies MEANT well--it is just that their antics have the usual UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES--hurting the very people they try to help with government regulation.

When executives had straight salaries, they weren't NEARLY as large as the performance bonuses they get today--and they had the best LONG TERM INTERESTS of the business at heart.  When limitations were imposed, business was forced to give (and executives willingly accepted) stock options and golden parachutes.

The result?  

Business that lives only for the bottom line, without long-term planning.

Business that goes overseas in search of additional profit.

"Golden Parachutes" for executives that leave.

"Stock option millionaires"--execs that collect millions in options, instead of straight salary.

You can lay this right at the feet of libbie congresscritters--they are the ones that enacted the bill, in an attempt to right a perceived wrong that didn't exist, and to pander to their base.

Thank you, libbies, you've succeeded AGAIN--just like the successes of every OTHER Socialist/Communist/Liberal/Progressive country. :sarcasm:  :crazy:


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Wrong again.  It wasn't Reagan, and it wasn't Bush.  It was none other than your own Bill Clinton.

You should probably get busy correcting the wikipedia entry on deregulation. Not sure if you can use "boardroom insider jokes" as a reference, but you could try it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deregulation#Deregulation_1970-2000


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