-------------- Actually my wife is especially happy when my google check arrives each month. Thanks to douchbags like you, I get paid just for getting you worked up. -Liberal
I guess I don't have to tell you that The Killers aren't a Christian rock band either.
FYI The sticks are available at Cup of Faith.
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-------------- Actually my wife is especially happy when my google check arrives each month. Thanks to douchbags like you, I get paid just for getting you worked up. -Liberal
I've always disliked "music videos" since they first came out. They always remind me of the libbie view of the world--an alternative universe, ungrounded in reality, without substance or meaning.
Regarding the title of this thread--"Reverend" Maddog--I always find it puzzling that those to profess to be liberals "favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs" tend to be the most intolerant of those who practice a religion (see Mahrer thread).
These same "liberals" tell us not to be judgemental--yet they castigate those who practice a religion.
These same "liberals" tell us not to impose a religion on people--yet they would deny the religious person their right to practice their religion.
I don't go to church (despite being married to a church organist--a "preacher's daughter"), but I wouldn't mock someone for being religious.
Why would someone that purports to "live and let live"--to be "non-judgemental"--to be "accepting"--who purportedly believes in "maximum individual freedom possible" consistently mock those who DO have personal religious convictions?
A Dictionary.com definition advocates capitalizing the word when referring to a political party.
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a member or supporter of a Liberal Party or Liberal Democrat party
I guess that's the difference between a classic, small L liberal and a modern, capitalized one. As George Orwell predicted, the meaning of words has become inverted from their original intent.
-------------- "If you want to anger a Conservative, tell him a lie. If you want to anger a LIBERAL, tell him the TRUTH!"
I've always disliked "music videos" since they first came out. They always remind me of the libbie view of the world--an alternative universe, ungrounded in reality, without substance or meaning.
Are you sure that you're not just upset that ABBA never made a video worth watching?
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These same "liberals" tell us not to be judgemental--yet they castigate those who practice a religion.
These same "liberals" tell us not to impose a religion on people--yet they would deny the religious person their right to practice their religion.
Got a link to back up your claims about "These same "liberals""?
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A Dictionary.com definition advocates capitalizing the word when referring to a political party. QUOTE a member or supporter of a Liberal Party or Liberal Democrat party
I guess that's the difference between a classic, small L liberal and a modern, capitalized one. As George Orwell predicted, the meaning of words has become inverted from their original intent.
What are you talking about? What word has an inverted meaning? Are you suggesting that liberals are not really liberals, and we just hijacked the name?
Maybe you could find us an example of any older documentation where the word liberal was used in a different way than it is today?
Just out of curiosity, what year/decade do you think the meaning of the word liberal was changed?
-------------- The people are masters of both Congress and courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert it!
Regarding the title of this thread--"Reverend" Maddog--I always find it puzzling that those to profess to be liberals "favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs" tend to be the most intolerant of those who practice a religion
There will always be those who will ridicule. The intolerant follow the same path of Esau. Hymie's bowl of soup was expensive. A mighty warrior and hunter who gave up everything to satisfy his hunger.
One small smooth stone guided by an angel was all it took to fell the another giant taunter.
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These same "liberals" tell us not to be judgemental--yet they castigate those who practice a religion.
Yet they call the religious, racist.
-------------- Actually my wife is especially happy when my google check arrives each month. Thanks to douchbags like you, I get paid just for getting you worked up. -Liberal
These same "liberals" tell us not to be judgemental--yet they castigate those who practice a religion.
These same "liberals" tell us not to impose a religion on people--yet they would deny the religious person their right to practice their religion.
Liberal--
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Got a link to back up your claims about "These same "liberals""?
Look no further than the Bill Mahrer thread--the wimp is intolerant of religion.
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A Dictionary.com definition advocates capitalizing the word when referring to a political party.
a member or supporter of a Liberal Party or Liberal Democrat party
I guess that's the difference between a classic, small L liberal and a modern, capitalized one. As George Orwell predicted, the meaning of words has become inverted from their original intent.?
Liberal--
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What are you talking about? What word has an inverted meaning? Are you suggesting that liberals are not really liberals, and we just hijacked the name
That's EXACTLY what I'm talking about. The classic definition of liberal--from Dictionary.com My comments in caps.
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lib·er·al /ˈlɪbərəl, ˈlɪbrəl/ Show Spelled[lib-er-uhl, lib-ruhl] adjective 1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs. WHO HAS SHOWED UNWILLINGNESS TO REFORM GOVERNMENT MORE THAN THE LIBERALS? EVER SEE THEM REPEAL FAILED POLICIES AND LAWS? MEDICARE? SOCIAL SECURITY? FARM PROGRAMS? ENERGY PROGRAMS? GOVERNMENT AGENCIES? I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT EVEN THE MOST ARDENT LIBERAL BELIEVES THAT ALL GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS ARE PERFECT AND DESERVE TO REMAIN. 2. ( often initial capital letter ) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform. THIS IS THE ONE I REFER TO AS THE NEW OR "LARGE L" LIBERAL 3. of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism. 4. favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, especially as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties. IS IT NOT TRUE THAT LIBERALS ARE THOSE WHO CONSISTENTLY ARGUE FOR MORE GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION THROUGH MORE GOVERNMENT LAWS AND EXPENDITURES? EVERY TIME YOU MAKE A NEW LAW, YOU TAKE AWAY RIGHTS FROM SOMEONE ELSE. 5. favoring or permitting freedom of action, especially with respect to matters of personal belief or expression. SEE ABOVE. GOVERNMENT RESTRICTS FREEDOM OF ACTION. GOVERNMENT IMPOSES LIMITS ON PERSONAL BELIEF OF THE MAJORITY SO THAT THE MINORITY WON'T BE "OFFENDED". GOVERNMENT CONTROL (AS EXPRESSED BY LIBERALS) MUZZLES PERSONAL EXPRESSION IN THE NAME OF "POLITICAL CORRECTNESS."
Liberal--
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Just out of curiosity, what year/decade do you think the meaning of the word liberal was changed?
In the words of liberals, the meaning of liberal itself has been "evolving". "Evolving" used to be called "change"
In the Orwellian world of the liberal, words "evolve" so as to be unrecognizeable. As demonstrated above, "liberal" USED to mean tolerant and accepting--now liberals (as demonstrated by Mahrer) are some of the most intolerant people in the country.
Today, liberals would have us cede more and more of our liberty and our money to the government, in the name of "Freedom". Government control is anything BUT freedom.
Small L liberals have changed the very meaning of words. "Investment" used to be called "spending." "Enhanced revenue" used to be called "tax hike."
Orwell foresaw the future changed meaning of words when he wrote 1984. In his book, "War is Peace", "Freedom is slavery", and "ignorance is strength." The government "Ministry of Truth" told lies, and the "Ministry of Love" conducted torture. In Animal Farm, he famously said "Some animals are more equal than others"--today, that "doublespeak" applies to the liberal tenet of "affirmative action"--addressing perceived inequities by punishing those who never participated in them.
Our government today is rife with Orwellian examples:
The Department of Energy spends billions of dollars, but hasn't produced a single drop of energy.
The Department of Education has presided over the dumbing down of American, despite spending billions of dollars.
The Department of Agriculture has presided over programs that pay farmers NOT to grow crops.
"Homeland Security" "keeps our country free" by invasive body searches and procedures designed for the LAST terrorist attack. It harasses and disrupt travelers at a cost of hundreds of billions of dollars, all the while ignoring people running across the border.
The Minestry Department of Justice sues the STATES for attempting to enforce Federal laws.
The current administration believes that the best way to improve health care is to ration it by including more non-payers.
The Department of Labor only advocates for one side--labor--by throwing the full weight of the Federal government behind it.
The Environmental Protection Agency believes that the best way to protect people is to--eliminate people! Reduce the people on public lands--give the snail darter the priority.
The Food and Drug Administration believes that the best way to protect Americans is to make the latest drugs so difficult to certify that they are only available in foreign countries. Those drugs that DO get certified in the U.S. are too expensive for purchase without insurance--then the government complains that the cost of insurance is too high.
The Freddie Mac and Fannie May Government Sponsored Enterprises believe that the best way to promote home ownership is to FORCE banks to make uncreditworthy loans to people that can't afford them--then bail out the banks.
The Dept. of Natural Resources believes that the best way to use natural resources is to NOT use them--no access, no lumber harvest.
Social Security and Medicare advocates believe that the government should collect taxes ("contributions, in Owellian doublespeak") from people their entire working life--have the government spend the money on other things, then "means-test" ("deny") your getting your money back when it turns out that the programs are broke.
Orwell saw this as happening in 1984--but most of these examples happened well before his vision of inverted government.
-------------- "If you want to anger a Conservative, tell him a lie. If you want to anger a LIBERAL, tell him the TRUTH!"
Look no further than the Bill Mahrer thread--the wimp is intolerant of religion.
So in your world if one liberal is intolerant of religion then all liberals are intolerant of religion? So using your logic if one of your fellow conservatives is a card carrying member of the KKK then all conservatives are racists?
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In the Orwellian world of the liberal, words "evolve" so as to be unrecognizeable. As demonstrated above, "liberal" USED to mean tolerant and accepting--now liberals (as demonstrated by Mahrer) are some of the most intolerant people in the country.
So you're saying that conservatives are tolerant and liberals are intolerant? This from the tolerant crowd that brought us DOMA?
So like I figured you couldn't find when liberal meant something different than it does today. I mean aside from in your imagination.
-------------- The people are masters of both Congress and courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert it!
FYI The sticks are available at Cup of Faith.
"Evolving" used to be called "change"