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hoosier 
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Posted on: Apr. 02 2004,9:16 am |
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Sorry, one last thing.
Just consider this.
Isnt this thing you are doing with this group of people the same way we got the people that we have now?
Behrends was picked and groomed for his board seat by people just like the ones you are talking to now. Tell us all how we are to believe that your people will make a better pick than the ones that chose Behrends? Im just saying, do things the way you would want it done, the right way, out in the open, so all knows. When just a few, know, thats bad, it scares me. It scares me when people are recruited by others for public office. It usually means the others want to influence government without getting their name muddied in the paper. People like that keep secrets, that scares me, it should scare us all.
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The power of accurate obsvervation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it.
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The devil begins with froth on the lips of an angel entering into battle for a holy and just cause. Grigory Pomerants
We have crossed the boundary that lies between Republic and Empire. Garet Garrett
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Montyman
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Posted on: Apr. 02 2004,9:09 pm |
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nobody's asked me to run.
maybe i should...
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Ignorant men raise questions that wise men answered a thousand years ago. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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minnow
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Posted on: Apr. 02 2004,9:16 pm |
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To be honest Hoosier, it doesn't really matter much now anyway. The big money's already been spent. Everything else from here on out is but mere fluff.
Is it true Springborg is not running? What an SOB!
He runs on no courthouse spending, changes his vote and swings the board....then walks away.
Leaving us to pay through the nose for the next 20 years...He deserves banishment.
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hoosier
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Posted on: Apr. 03 2004,7:32 am |
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Amen Minnow, LOL
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The power of accurate obsvervation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it.
George Bernard Shaw
The devil begins with froth on the lips of an angel entering into battle for a holy and just cause. Grigory Pomerants
We have crossed the boundary that lies between Republic and Empire. Garet Garrett
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hoosier
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Posted on: Apr. 03 2004,7:41 am |
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Montyman, run if you like. Is your commissioner up for reelection? Dont take this as an official anouncement or anything, but if no one steps foward to oppose Behrends in my district, I will. Im not saying I would be any better than others, but you wouldnt get any bull$hit, you would know the truth about what goes on, even behind the scenes. There would be nothing the citizens dont know about county government. After all, whats the big secret, aint like we have national security issues here, but you would think so with all the behind the scenes deals that go on, outside the publics ability to see them.
And, when an issue comes up, and you know that 60, 70, or 80 percent of the people that you represent are on one side of this issue, you put away your own feelings on the subject and do what the majority of your people want.
And on the subject of running the meetings, you do it by the book, according to the law. Behrends ran this board like it was some kind of church council or school board. Running government is serious business, you do it by the book, regardless. Because after all, the book is there to protect the people you represent, from you.
I would also mention that I would like to run, but if others wish to, I would step aside. If we get two or three people to run against one commissioner, the incumbent could end up winning, with the votes split three or four ways. To me, its not about me serving, its about getting rid of the people we now have serving. Selfish people and egos have no place here. If good people run, government will do just fine without me. 
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The power of accurate obsvervation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it.
George Bernard Shaw
The devil begins with froth on the lips of an angel entering into battle for a holy and just cause. Grigory Pomerants
We have crossed the boundary that lies between Republic and Empire. Garet Garrett
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Apr. 03 2004,7:03 pm |
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Hoosier--as Hal said in the movie 2001--"Take a stress pill!"
"Secret meetings?" I can see how it could be taken that way--but the last time I checked, there was still a Constitutional guarantee of freedom of expression and freedom of association. Getting 6 people together to find a candidate (or MULTIPLE candidates), is hardly newsworthy (I don't think the media is interested) or required--it is no different than a bunch of friends getting together at home and discussing politics. The difference in the open meeting law for public officials is that THEY are spending OUR money--though we didn't talk about spending ANY money at the meeting (only who might be approached as being a candidate or candidates), there is nothing illegal in doing so If you are an organized political party (which we are NOT), it is called a CAUCUS. Promoting a number of good candidates to run is a GOOD THING--it is called CITIZENSHIP. How is this group different from say, the League of Women Voters--you know, the group that sponsors the debates? They don't support one candidate, they encourage anybody that wants to run to do so, and offer them encouragement to do so. It would be a sad day indeed if people had to post notice of intent to discuss politics or candidates in the privacy of their own home. Perhaps you would like NO PM's ON POLITICS from this Forum? No E-mails, either? | Quote | | not revealing to people who is going to support these people, is a very bad idea. |
Talk about McCarthyism! "Who do you support? Why wasn't this information made public?"
The group asked me to write this up for the Forum, because they believe that the participants on the Forum HAVE raised political awareness within the community, and made elected officials more cognizant of their responsibilities. There are a number of ways this could be written up for the Forum--I chose to write it up as short and directly as I could. Perhaps you would like to take a crack at it next time? Though there is no "Chairman", "Treasurer", or any other officer--just an ad-hoc group, I'm sure you would be welcome any time they get together.
Hoosier--you need to drop the always-combative attitude--even when you are right, you lose readers with the language. Be more diplomatic--you can convey the same message to more people be doing so.
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riffraff
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Posted on: Apr. 05 2004,3:09 pm |
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shaker
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Posted on: Apr. 05 2004,3:55 pm |
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That is what Jim and a few other people are trying to do,that is, find out who mite be interested and want to run, just hold tight riffraff, I am sure there will be some very good people to run, when there is We will all know who they are.
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minnow
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Posted on: Apr. 05 2004,4:28 pm |
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I want 3 things from a candidate:
1. Someone who fights to keep taxes from rising. Someone like Bleshan who questions excessive spending.
2. Someone who'll not let Gabe dominate them or someone who'll even fire that no good rotten SOB.
3. Someone who won't let the position go to their head and start wanting massive government growth like Springborg did.
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Truth
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Posted on: Apr. 05 2004,5:30 pm |
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I don't see any radicals making onto our board.
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