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Grinning_Dragon 
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Posted on: Feb. 25 2004,10:06 pm |
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Put down the bong minow, and re-read.
I said, to get married OR recieve special treatment.
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*The object of war is NOT to DIE for YOUR Country, but to make the OTHER BASTARD DIE for HIS...Patton
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Madd Max
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Posted on: Feb. 26 2004,12:26 am |
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| Quote (Grinning_Dragon @ Feb. 25 2004,9:41:pm) | | Rush is liberal to what I belive. |
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minnow
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Posted on: Feb. 26 2004,1:59 am |
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How is getting married special treatment?
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Feb. 29 2004,2:36 pm |
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Regarding Grinning Dragon's use of the word Fag--are we now so PC that we can't even use the word? The word Fag, Fagot, or Faggot has many meanings. In addition to "metal to be beaten into other items by hammering or rolling(?)  or "a bundle of sticks, twigs, or branches"--there are other meanings:
From Websters| Quote | | to collect promiscuously. |
From Websters New Word dictionary| Quote | | a boy in an English public school that acts as a servant for another boy in a higher form, or class |
From Merriam's| Quote | | a useless piece of wood |
How is it that we have demonized THIS word, but COMPLETELY changed the meaning of the word GAY? In the 1950s, you never heard the word--so I pulled out a copy of Webster's from 1952. There was no mention of sexual orientation in the definition--gay still meant happy and light-hearted.
Here is a Usage Note from the American Heritage dictionary, from Dictionary.com--highlighted areas are mine.| Quote | | Usage Note: The word gay is now standard in its use to refer to homosexuals, in large part because it is the term that most gay people prefer in referring to themselves. Gay is distinguished from homosexual primarily by the emphasis it places on the cultural and social aspects of homosexuality as opposed to sexual practice. Many writers reserve gay for males, but the word is also used to refer to both sexes; when the intended meaning is not clear in the context, the phrase gay and lesbian may be used. Like the other names of social groups derived from adjectives (for example, Black), gay may be regarded as offensive when used as a noun to refer to particular individuals, as in There were two gays on the panel; here phrasing such as gay members should be used instead. But there is no objection to the use of the noun in the plural to refer collectively either to gay men or to gay men and lesbians, so long as it is clear whether men alone or both men and women are being discussed. |
I don't see any similar useage guides for fag, fagot, or faggot--terms gays also use to refer to one another--the terms are not perjerotive or disparaging--except in the mind of those who have been TOLD that it is not PC. Use the term at will.
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Grinning_Dragon
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Posted on: Feb. 29 2004,3:28 pm |
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Also Jim, I don't know if Brits still use the term for cigs any more, but instead of bumming a smoke, they would bumm a FAG.
And my Grandparents still use the word gay to refer to a good time, and they get the wierdest look on their face when we all start to giggle when they say "It sure was a gay ol time" hehehe
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*SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS / MOLON LABE / Se Defendendo
memoria of cado frater ,Semper fidelis
*The object of war is NOT to DIE for YOUR Country, but to make the OTHER BASTARD DIE for HIS...Patton
My Constitutional Rights trump your dead.
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MrTarzan
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Posted on: Feb. 29 2004,3:59 pm |
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Yes Grinning_Dragon, fag is the slang for a smoke, and that is how American homos became fags, though I think I don't have to explain why. Taking a drag on a fag says it all. What the heck, though, we can name our divorce laden theme park "Gays End". I think I will make it a non-profit and start collecting money for construction immediately. Maybe I can get Colette to manage it so I know all the staff are properly diversity trained. Sparky can help because it will be a Port in a Storm of gayness, and Pam can recruit vendors from Northwood for concessions. 
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Feb. 29 2004,6:53 pm |
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Gays End Gives new meaning to "Fifty ways to Leave your Lover!"
"Just get out of bed, TED". "Get on up to the Mall, Paul". "I'm cuttin' you Loose, Bruce". "You're gonna be Gone, Don". "I'm done being Gay, Ray". "I no longer Like, Mike". "I'm going with HIM, Tim". "You ain't doin' the JOB, Bob" "You're no longer MINE, Brian". "You just ain't my Man, Dan". "Go back to Loring PARK, Mark". "You're out of Style, Lyle", "Get up and Leave, Steve". "I'll give you the wave, Dave". "I'm sayin' So Long, John". "I've gotta be Frank, Frank" "You're no longer my Boy, Elroy" "You're out of Luck, Chuck", "I'm really Sorry, Cory" "Get a new Pal, Al", "This is gonna Hurt, Burt", "Get a new Date, Nate", "You've been such a Bitch, Rich", "Best I've ever Had, Brad", "I'll make do with Less, Wes", "I've had my Fill, Bill".
Self-Censorship precludes using the names "Chuck, Cliff, Gene, Larry, or Dick" 
Maybe it shouldn't be name-specific. Take a tip from something geographical, like, "Get your Kicks on Route 66"--our version would be "Get your Heinie down Interstate 90!"
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MrTarzan
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Posted on: Feb. 29 2004,9:48 pm |
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Hey that's good, you should be in marketing jimhanson, theme song for the theme park, and the slogan too.
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