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QUOTE ^^ You weren't there, you're making an assessment based on propaganda coming from the Constitutional Carry crowd.
The 20 year bad guy also got his weapons under these loose gun laws.
My opinion, none of you wannabes should be allowed a Military style rifle until you complete your Military Obligation and are awarded a Honorable Discharge...
I'm basing my opinion on the facts of what has been reported and by the fact of the difficulty of hitting a moving target at distance with a sidearm and scoring higher than 60%.
You do know "military style" means nothing, pretty much any firearm today could be considered "military style" it's a BS term and you know it.
Honestly do you think firearm design would stay static and resemble firearm design from the 1800/1900's? Are you going to throw a fit when energy based weapons hit the market and call them "military style" when they most likely won't even resemble what they look like today?
Loose gun laws huh? Well considering 20 is an adult and an adult has the enumerated negative right to keep and bear arms, it's pretty much how enumerated negative rights work, rights don't require prerequisites to exercise. Then again there isn't any thing loose about the firearm laws in this country due to the amount of BS one has to go through to purchase a firearm.
Military service in no way confers a knowledge in firearms or makes one any better in their handling than the next guy. At the least any one can sit and hit targets at 25m to 300m and get their marksmanship pin.
I've gone up against so called hard asses in force on force training and when they get their assess handed to them they do the same thing you are doing, they start spouting off and make excuses.
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memoria of cado frater ,Semper fidelis
*The object of war is NOT to DIE for YOUR Country, but to make the OTHER BASTARD DIE for HIS...Patton
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^^ energy based?  
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Posted on: Jul. 24 2022,9:07 am |
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(Grinning_Dragon @ Jul. 24 2022,8:21 am)
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(Expatriate @ Jul. 24 2022,4:56 am)
QUOTE ^^ You weren't there, you're making an assessment based on propaganda coming from the Constitutional Carry crowd.
The 20 year bad guy also got his weapons under these loose gun laws.
My opinion, none of you wannabes should be allowed a Military style rifle until you complete your Military Obligation and are awarded a Honorable Discharge... I'm basing my opinion on the facts of what has been reported and by the fact of the difficulty of hitting a moving target at distance with a sidearm and scoring higher than 60%. You do know "military style" means nothing, pretty much any firearm today could be considered "military style" it's a BS term and you know it. Honestly do you think firearm design would stay static and resemble firearm design from the 1800/1900's? Are you going to throw a fit when energy based weapons hit the market and call them "military style" when they most likely won't even resemble what they look like today? Loose gun laws huh? Well considering 20 is an adult and an adult has the enumerated negative right to keep and bear arms, it's pretty much how enumerated negative rights work, rights don't require prerequisites to exercise. Then again there isn't any thing loose about the firearm laws in this country due to the amount of BS one has to go through to purchase a firearm. Military service in no way confers a knowledge in firearms or makes one any better in their handling than the next guy. At the least any one can sit and hit targets at 25m to 300m and get their marksmanship pin. I've gone up against so called hard asses in force on force training and when they get their assess handed to them they do the same thing you are doing, they start spouting off and make excuses.
are the odds of a conceal carry person being at a mass-shooter event published in your NRA Bible?
and now that we've decided our savior at the mall. was no ordinary shooter. . he's more of what we might call an 'expert' marksman?
so guess we will need the odds of that now as well. . .
so in the annals of your gun theology. . does that mean. . that when we all should be carrying guns. that we would all need a rigorous ongoing commitment to our shooting proficiency?
like as much as say a police officer? which you seemed to have already stated. . . they generally on the whole. . are not that good at shooting. . . right?
so maybe. . even more training.. . than they get? 
your championing of guns.. . as a solutions to guns.. . seems to have. . . a lot of conflicting. . . information imo
it sounds like we need more people with guns. but its hard to shoot. so they need more training? but even that doesn't produce good results. so we need even more rare expert marksman?
personally not going to go along with that as a viable sane solution for solution to gun violence. . .
just curious:
when you say you've gone up against hard asses. . . what does that mean exactly?
where you shooting live rounds at each other? was it laser tag? paintball?
you don't wear your hair in a man-bun by any chance do you?
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Grinning_Dragon
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Posted on: Jul. 24 2022,9:24 am |
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(Brand New Day @ Jul. 24 2022,9:07 am)
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(Expatriate @ Jul. 24 2022,4:56 am)
QUOTE ^^ You weren't there, you're making an assessment based on propaganda coming from the Constitutional Carry crowd.
The 20 year bad guy also got his weapons under these loose gun laws.
My opinion, none of you wannabes should be allowed a Military style rifle until you complete your Military Obligation and are awarded a Honorable Discharge... I'm basing my opinion on the facts of what has been reported and by the fact of the difficulty of hitting a moving target at distance with a sidearm and scoring higher than 60%. You do know "military style" means nothing, pretty much any firearm today could be considered "military style" it's a BS term and you know it. Honestly do you think firearm design would stay static and resemble firearm design from the 1800/1900's? Are you going to throw a fit when energy based weapons hit the market and call them "military style" when they most likely won't even resemble what they look like today? Loose gun laws huh? Well considering 20 is an adult and an adult has the enumerated negative right to keep and bear arms, it's pretty much how enumerated negative rights work, rights don't require prerequisites to exercise. Then again there isn't any thing loose about the firearm laws in this country due to the amount of BS one has to go through to purchase a firearm. Military service in no way confers a knowledge in firearms or makes one any better in their handling than the next guy. At the least any one can sit and hit targets at 25m to 300m and get their marksmanship pin. I've gone up against so called hard asses in force on force training and when they get their assess handed to them they do the same thing you are doing, they start spouting off and make excuses. are the odds of a conceal carry person being at a mass-shooter event published in your NRA Bible? and now that we've decided our savior at the mall. was no ordinary shooter. . he's more of what we might call an 'expert' marksman? so guess we will need the odds of that now as well. . . so in the annals of your gun theology. . does that mean. . that when we all should be carrying guns. that we would all need a rigorous ongoing commitment to our shooting proficiency? like as much as say a police officer? which you seemed to have already stated. . . they generally on the whole. . are not that good at shooting. . . right? so maybe. . even more training.. . than they get? your championing of guns as a solutions to guns seems to have a lot of conflicting. . . information imo it sounds like we need more people with guns. but its hard to shoot. so they need more training? but even that doesn't produce good results. so we need even more rare expert marksman? personally not going to go along with that as a viable sane solution for solution to gun violence. . . just curious: when you say you've gone up against hard asses. . . what does that mean exactly? where you shooting live rounds at each other? was it laser tag? paintball? you don't wear your hair in a man-bun by any chance do you?
As much as I try to parse this, why do you post in a Dr. Suss manner?
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memoria of cado frater ,Semper fidelis
*The object of war is NOT to DIE for YOUR Country, but to make the OTHER BASTARD DIE for HIS...Patton
My Constitutional Rights trump your dead.
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Posted on: Jul. 24 2022,9:35 am |
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(Grinning_Dragon @ Jul. 24 2022,9:24 am)
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(Expatriate @ Jul. 24 2022,4:56 am)
QUOTE ^^ You weren't there, you're making an assessment based on propaganda coming from the Constitutional Carry crowd.
The 20 year bad guy also got his weapons under these loose gun laws.
My opinion, none of you wannabes should be allowed a Military style rifle until you complete your Military Obligation and are awarded a Honorable Discharge... I'm basing my opinion on the facts of what has been reported and by the fact of the difficulty of hitting a moving target at distance with a sidearm and scoring higher than 60%. You do know "military style" means nothing, pretty much any firearm today could be considered "military style" it's a BS term and you know it. Honestly do you think firearm design would stay static and resemble firearm design from the 1800/1900's? Are you going to throw a fit when energy based weapons hit the market and call them "military style" when they most likely won't even resemble what they look like today? Loose gun laws huh? Well considering 20 is an adult and an adult has the enumerated negative right to keep and bear arms, it's pretty much how enumerated negative rights work, rights don't require prerequisites to exercise. Then again there isn't any thing loose about the firearm laws in this country due to the amount of BS one has to go through to purchase a firearm. Military service in no way confers a knowledge in firearms or makes one any better in their handling than the next guy. At the least any one can sit and hit targets at 25m to 300m and get their marksmanship pin. I've gone up against so called hard asses in force on force training and when they get their assess handed to them they do the same thing you are doing, they start spouting off and make excuses. are the odds of a conceal carry person being at a mass-shooter event published in your NRA Bible? and now that we've decided our savior at the mall. was no ordinary shooter. . he's more of what we might call an 'expert' marksman? so guess we will need the odds of that now as well. . . so in the annals of your gun theology. . does that mean. . that when we all should be carrying guns. that we would all need a rigorous ongoing commitment to our shooting proficiency? like as much as say a police officer? which you seemed to have already stated. . . they generally on the whole. . are not that good at shooting. . . right? so maybe. . even more training.. . than they get? your championing of guns as a solutions to guns seems to have a lot of conflicting. . . information imo it sounds like we need more people with guns. but its hard to shoot. so they need more training? but even that doesn't produce good results. so we need even more rare expert marksman? personally not going to go along with that as a viable sane solution for solution to gun violence. . . just curious: when you say you've gone up against hard asses. . . what does that mean exactly? where you shooting live rounds at each other? was it laser tag? paintball? you don't wear your hair in a man-bun by any chance do you? As much as I try to parse this, why do you post in a Dr. Suss manner?
why do you dis someone who honorably served in the military?
cause you're a laser tag champion? 
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Grinning_Dragon
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(Brand New Day @ Jul. 24 2022,9:35 am)
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(Expatriate @ Jul. 24 2022,4:56 am)
QUOTE ^^ You weren't there, you're making an assessment based on propaganda coming from the Constitutional Carry crowd.
The 20 year bad guy also got his weapons under these loose gun laws.
My opinion, none of you wannabes should be allowed a Military style rifle until you complete your Military Obligation and are awarded a Honorable Discharge... I'm basing my opinion on the facts of what has been reported and by the fact of the difficulty of hitting a moving target at distance with a sidearm and scoring higher than 60%. You do know "military style" means nothing, pretty much any firearm today could be considered "military style" it's a BS term and you know it. Honestly do you think firearm design would stay static and resemble firearm design from the 1800/1900's? Are you going to throw a fit when energy based weapons hit the market and call them "military style" when they most likely won't even resemble what they look like today? Loose gun laws huh? Well considering 20 is an adult and an adult has the enumerated negative right to keep and bear arms, it's pretty much how enumerated negative rights work, rights don't require prerequisites to exercise. Then again there isn't any thing loose about the firearm laws in this country due to the amount of BS one has to go through to purchase a firearm. Military service in no way confers a knowledge in firearms or makes one any better in their handling than the next guy. At the least any one can sit and hit targets at 25m to 300m and get their marksmanship pin. I've gone up against so called hard asses in force on force training and when they get their assess handed to them they do the same thing you are doing, they start spouting off and make excuses. are the odds of a conceal carry person being at a mass-shooter event published in your NRA Bible? and now that we've decided our savior at the mall. was no ordinary shooter. . he's more of what we might call an 'expert' marksman? so guess we will need the odds of that now as well. . . so in the annals of your gun theology. . does that mean. . that when we all should be carrying guns. that we would all need a rigorous ongoing commitment to our shooting proficiency? like as much as say a police officer? which you seemed to have already stated. . . they generally on the whole. . are not that good at shooting. . . right? so maybe. . even more training.. . than they get? your championing of guns as a solutions to guns seems to have a lot of conflicting. . . information imo it sounds like we need more people with guns. but its hard to shoot. so they need more training? but even that doesn't produce good results. so we need even more rare expert marksman? personally not going to go along with that as a viable sane solution for solution to gun violence. . . just curious: when you say you've gone up against hard asses. . . what does that mean exactly? where you shooting live rounds at each other? was it laser tag? paintball? you don't wear your hair in a man-bun by any chance do you? As much as I try to parse this, why do you post in a Dr. Suss manner? why do you dis someone who honorably served in the military? cause you're a laser tag champion?
Pointing out logical fallacies isn't dissing anyone.
Laser tag? You do know force on force training use simunitions, yes?
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*SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS / MOLON LABE / Se Defendendo
memoria of cado frater ,Semper fidelis
*The object of war is NOT to DIE for YOUR Country, but to make the OTHER BASTARD DIE for HIS...Patton
My Constitutional Rights trump your dead.
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Posted on: Jul. 24 2022,9:42 am |
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^^ why do you speak of subject which by the contents of your posts you know absolutely nothing about? 
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(Grinning_Dragon @ Jul. 24 2022,9:24 am)
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(Expatriate @ Jul. 24 2022,4:56 am)
QUOTE ^^ You weren't there, you're making an assessment based on propaganda coming from the Constitutional Carry crowd.
The 20 year bad guy also got his weapons under these loose gun laws.
My opinion, none of you wannabes should be allowed a Military style rifle until you complete your Military Obligation and are awarded a Honorable Discharge... I'm basing my opinion on the facts of what has been reported and by the fact of the difficulty of hitting a moving target at distance with a sidearm and scoring higher than 60%. You do know "military style" means nothing, pretty much any firearm today could be considered "military style" it's a BS term and you know it. Honestly do you think firearm design would stay static and resemble firearm design from the 1800/1900's? Are you going to throw a fit when energy based weapons hit the market and call them "military style" when they most likely won't even resemble what they look like today? Loose gun laws huh? Well considering 20 is an adult and an adult has the enumerated negative right to keep and bear arms, it's pretty much how enumerated negative rights work, rights don't require prerequisites to exercise. Then again there isn't any thing loose about the firearm laws in this country due to the amount of BS one has to go through to purchase a firearm. Military service in no way confers a knowledge in firearms or makes one any better in their handling than the next guy. At the least any one can sit and hit targets at 25m to 300m and get their marksmanship pin. I've gone up against so called hard asses in force on force training and when they get their assess handed to them they do the same thing you are doing, they start spouting off and make excuses. are the odds of a conceal carry person being at a mass-shooter event published in your NRA Bible? and now that we've decided our savior at the mall. was no ordinary shooter. . he's more of what we might call an 'expert' marksman? so guess we will need the odds of that now as well. . . so in the annals of your gun theology. . does that mean. . that when we all should be carrying guns. that we would all need a rigorous ongoing commitment to our shooting proficiency? like as much as say a police officer? which you seemed to have already stated. . . they generally on the whole. . are not that good at shooting. . . right? so maybe. . even more training.. . than they get? your championing of guns as a solutions to guns seems to have a lot of conflicting. . . information imo it sounds like we need more people with guns. but its hard to shoot. so they need more training? but even that doesn't produce good results. so we need even more rare expert marksman? personally not going to go along with that as a viable sane solution for solution to gun violence. . . just curious: when you say you've gone up against hard asses. . . what does that mean exactly? where you shooting live rounds at each other? was it laser tag? paintball? you don't wear your hair in a man-bun by any chance do you? As much as I try to parse this, why do you post in a Dr. Suss manner?
grammatical conventions are an ever-changing thing. . .
now that communication has shifted to being PC based
would imagine it is going to be changing even more dramatically. . in the coming years
perhaps even evolve back to a glyph type of writing of some sort?
being a well behaved. . anal. . 20th century grammar rule expert practitioner. . doesn't preclude you from letting your religious bias get in the way of clearer reasoned thinking
while wouldn't say your grammar skills are expert by any means. . .
would say. . you have the full of shit part down. . pretty good
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(Brand New Day @ Jul. 24 2022,9:58 am)
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(Expatriate @ Jul. 24 2022,4:56 am)
QUOTE ^^ You weren't there, you're making an assessment based on propaganda coming from the Constitutional Carry crowd.
The 20 year bad guy also got his weapons under these loose gun laws.
My opinion, none of you wannabes should be allowed a Military style rifle until you complete your Military Obligation and are awarded a Honorable Discharge... I'm basing my opinion on the facts of what has been reported and by the fact of the difficulty of hitting a moving target at distance with a sidearm and scoring higher than 60%. You do know "military style" means nothing, pretty much any firearm today could be considered "military style" it's a BS term and you know it. Honestly do you think firearm design would stay static and resemble firearm design from the 1800/1900's? Are you going to throw a fit when energy based weapons hit the market and call them "military style" when they most likely won't even resemble what they look like today? Loose gun laws huh? Well considering 20 is an adult and an adult has the enumerated negative right to keep and bear arms, it's pretty much how enumerated negative rights work, rights don't require prerequisites to exercise. Then again there isn't any thing loose about the firearm laws in this country due to the amount of BS one has to go through to purchase a firearm. Military service in no way confers a knowledge in firearms or makes one any better in their handling than the next guy. At the least any one can sit and hit targets at 25m to 300m and get their marksmanship pin. I've gone up against so called hard asses in force on force training and when they get their assess handed to them they do the same thing you are doing, they start spouting off and make excuses. are the odds of a conceal carry person being at a mass-shooter event published in your NRA Bible? and now that we've decided our savior at the mall. was no ordinary shooter. . he's more of what we might call an 'expert' marksman? so guess we will need the odds of that now as well. . . so in the annals of your gun theology. . does that mean. . that when we all should be carrying guns. that we would all need a rigorous ongoing commitment to our shooting proficiency? like as much as say a police officer? which you seemed to have already stated. . . they generally on the whole. . are not that good at shooting. . . right? so maybe. . even more training.. . than they get? your championing of guns as a solutions to guns seems to have a lot of conflicting. . . information imo it sounds like we need more people with guns. but its hard to shoot. so they need more training? but even that doesn't produce good results. so we need even more rare expert marksman? personally not going to go along with that as a viable sane solution for solution to gun violence. . . just curious: when you say you've gone up against hard asses. . . what does that mean exactly? where you shooting live rounds at each other? was it laser tag? paintball? you don't wear your hair in a man-bun by any chance do you? As much as I try to parse this, why do you post in a Dr. Suss manner? grammatical conventions are an ever-changing thing. . . now that communication has shifted to being PC based would imagine it is going to be changing even more dramatically. . in the coming years perhaps even evolve back to a glyph type of writing of some sort? being a well behaved. . anal. . 20th century grammar rule expert practitioner. . doesn't preclude you from letting your religious bias get in the way of clearer reasoned thinking while wouldn't say your grammar skills are expert by any means. . . would say. . you have the full of shit part down. . pretty good
What?
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*SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS / MOLON LABE / Se Defendendo
memoria of cado frater ,Semper fidelis
*The object of war is NOT to DIE for YOUR Country, but to make the OTHER BASTARD DIE for HIS...Patton
My Constitutional Rights trump your dead.
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