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Posted on: Aug. 29 2017,8:49 am |
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Freeborn County has an aging population, it's my belief we need hospital beds locally. Older folks rack up more hospital days. We need a Hospital/Clinic for the economic survival of our city.
The reason we also need our own clinic—Mayo's clinic would support Mayo's Hospital and let ours set empty or use it as a dump for uninsured patients..
Going into competition with Mayo is a tough row to hoe, but they've pushed our hand...there's a lot of folks in this town that won't knuckle under. the Save Our Hospital SOH group has over 4000 members and growing...
I support this move, it may take a voter approved levy or special election approval, I say we have groundbreaking as soon as possible.
A local Hospital/Clinic run by local folks for local folks!
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Posted on: Aug. 29 2017,9:38 am |
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The horse has already left the barn.
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Posted on: Aug. 29 2017,10:21 am |
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I think that people severely under estimate just how expensive to build and operate a community hospital will be. Keep in mind that the challenges there are in attracting and keeping skilled physicians and mid level providers to staff a facility. If Mayo is having these challenges in being able to offer a career path advancement for a new physician how does Albert Lea Hospital compete and retain skilled providers?
Here is a somewhat comparable example in recent history. Chelan, Washington is located in the middle of Washington state. Approximately 160 miles from either Spokane or Seattle. About 8000 people live in the area and grows to over 30,000 during the peak summer tourist season.
http://www.golakechelan.com/new-hos...results
http://newhospitalnow.com/
Lake Chelan Community Hospital was voted and approved at a cost to the area of ~45m dollars. About half was bonded to the taxpayers served and the other $25 million was savings in reserve from the hospital foundation. Assuming we won't have that resourse, the entire cost would need to be bonded to our citizens. Conservatively raising property taxes about $60 per 100k of valuation.
https://lakechelancommunityhospital.com/hospital-reports/
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Posted on: Aug. 29 2017,11:04 am |
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^^ I think you're right, especially the cost of running and the tax levy.
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Posted on: Aug. 29 2017,3:10 pm |
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@ SB, I applaud you for not voting, your vested interest is no longer in our community.
@ seulloup, nice post, not sure your example of Chelan with a population of 4000 compares to a county of 30 thousand mostly year around residents.
I do agree it's an expensive venture, but your figure of 60 on a 100k doesn't seem unreasonable, most hospital/clinics turn a profit so this increase in tax may be a short term cost factor.
Fact is Mayo is the most expensive healthcare organization in the state, if we as a county run a hospital/clinic and can bring those costs down we may see a reduction of insurance cost making Albert Lea a more viable area for manufacturing location. Plus, If my monthly insurance cost dropped 10 dollars per person it would offset any increase in tax.
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Posted on: Aug. 30 2017,4:36 am |
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Gov doesn't run anything cheaply or efficiently and when's the last time anyone saw a temporary tax? AL's only chance of survival is getting the likes of Allina or Fairview in there. Only then will AL get any consideration from businesses investing there.
Trouble is, you have facilities 20 miles east and 30 miles south which puts AL kinda in a gray zone, too close for another facility, too far for convenience.
The price of 40 years of inept gov.
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Posted on: Aug. 30 2017,6:04 am |
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Efficiency is key to success, in your case a one man operation has made you successful, a no frills operation that cuts costs for the best service at the lowest price.
Partnering with a larger health organization is one thing giving them complete control another. Bigger isn't always the keys to success, Mayo has a lot of overhead in the way of unnecessary management. They tend to overbuild— atriums, conservatories, aquariums, seven story open spaces, literally building a cathedral to medicine..the Rochester Mayo campus has 7 fountains..you'd swear a Roman Emperor was running the show.
Medicine as we know it is about to change, a cloud-based network and AI called Watson will soon turn rural General Practitioners into specialist. A no frills basic small Hospital/clinic tied to the cloud will cut costs and give Albert Lea's hospital a preferred provider status among insurers as well as patients...
Mayo isn't prepared for that type of competition, they're too large and cumbersome.
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Posted on: Aug. 31 2017,10:26 pm |
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Expiirate, whatever your name is. You need to shut your trap! Don't you have anything better to do? Everybody bitched and complained about the hospital and said that I will never ever go to the Albert lea hospital and now you're bitching about it ? Trying to save it? My god you people have issues!! You all complained so much how bad they were so they said we're moving!!
Should've supported in the beginning you Do you talk like that to your mother? idiot !
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Posted on: Aug. 31 2017,10:45 pm |
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Almost everyone of you talked negatively about them when they were in full service. Now we get these results. What do you really expect folks?
You all made it happen! Nice Job! Wow! 😳
Talk crap about the number one next company and they'll probably move out too. You political people suck!!!
Nothing but whiners!
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Posted on: Sep. 01 2017,4:51 am |
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^^ I see you have a new friend Expat.
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