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Posted on: Dec. 28 2015,12:42 pm |
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(Expatriate @ Dec. 24 2015,5:31 am)
QUOTE Prisoner exchange is nothing new or special to this situation.
We must try to repatriate our captured troops whenever possible, these soldiers must know they have our Military, President, and Country's support, no matter the situation.
This exchange was planned and worked out by the Military/CIA at levels far below the President, don't you think this five for one exchange was analyzed to maximize the benefit for US. To politicize this situation to attack Obama shows partisanship.
Our Military men and woman should be treated with the utmost respect, they should be our most beloved sons and daughters not an expendable commodity to be used as cannon fodder for profit or political advantage.
As for Sargent Bergdahl, he's entitled to a fair trial, his ranking peers will determine his guilt, innocence, fate..
If he survived five years in enemy hands without the benefit of the Geneva Convention rules he's been punished enough..
I'm not necessarily trying to show partisanship against Obama with this. I know this was discussed well below his level, but surely he had to give the go ahead on the exchange?
While I concur Bowe is due his day in court and a fair trial, I find it odd that this president continues to insert himself in these situations before all the facts come out. That is all I really meant by my last statement.
As for Bergdahl being punished enough, I was not in the military, (a decision I have admittedly regretted) but I'm not so sure I would agree. He allegedly deserted his post, knowingly going to an enemy that he surely knows does not honer the Geneva convention (again, allegedly). When you desert your fellow soldiers, you get what you ask for. You leave your fellow soldiers unprotected when they are counting on you.
Unless other facts come out that I am not aware of, I will keep my opinions of Bowe the way the are. Once his day in court has been had, we all shall know what really happened once and for all.
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Expatriate
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Posted on: Dec. 29 2015,7:08 am |
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As for Obama inserting himself, one of the first things a military recruit learns is the chain of command, at the top of this chain is the Commander in Chief (that's the President) so he's not really inserting himself..
If you're referring to Bergdahl status, that's actually of little concern to the military or the CINC, they aren't convicting without a trial, they just want him repatriated.
As for the Geneva Convention, the Afghanistan government had never signed, that's common knowledge, but we had, the Bush Administration made a mockery of the Geneva Convention with their prisoner torture...a true embarrassment to US.
As to Bergdahl himself, the Coast Guard gave him the boot after a month, the French Foreign Legion turned him down flat, yet the Army took him, gave him an Infantry MOS, life can get fairly spartan under the best of conditions in these units..
Bergdahl is home schooled with a Christian background, I often wondered how these essentially sheltered children fair when they hit the real world.
Like I said earlier in this thread, people crack, some try to kill themselves, some go AWOL, some try to kill their peers, they're not in their right-mind something has snapped. For this kid to think he could just walk away shows in-itself he's not thinking logically..
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Posted on: Apr. 19 2016,1:08 pm |
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(Expatriate @ Dec. 29 2015,7:08 am)
QUOTE As for Obama inserting himself, one of the first things a military recruit learns is the chain of command, at the top of this chain is the Commander in Chief (that's the President) so he's not really inserting himself..
If you're referring to Bergdahl status, that's actually of little concern to the military or the CINC, they aren't convicting without a trial, they just want him repatriated.
As for the Geneva Convention, the Afghanistan government had never signed, that's common knowledge, but we had, the Bush Administration made a mockery of the Geneva Convention with their prisoner torture...a true embarrassment to US.
As to Bergdahl himself, the Coast Guard gave him the boot after a month, the French Foreign Legion turned him down flat, yet the Army took him, gave him an Infantry MOS, life can get fairly spartan under the best of conditions in these units..
Bergdahl is home schooled with a Christian background, I often wondered how these essentially sheltered children fair when they hit the real world.
Like I said earlier in this thread, people crack, some try to kill themselves, some go AWOL, some try to kill their peers, they're not in their right-mind something has snapped. For this kid to think he could just walk away shows in-itself he's not thinking logically..
I agree 100% BUT his actions are directly responsible for the killing of many Americans, how many we will never know..
What he did is comparable to a mass killing spree of his peers..
He needs to be locked up for at least a couple decades..
Just my opinion.. 
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Posted on: May 19 2016,7:13 pm |
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All deserters should be shot No questions asked,
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Posted on: May 20 2016,7:48 pm |
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^The truth is I have little respect for an NG of the 60's or early 70's, it was merely a haven for chickenSh!ts like yourself...
if you want shoot deserters stick your pistol in your mouth NG and pull the trigger!
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Posted on: May 21 2016,5:38 am |
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^^Rambo speaks 
Batsh!t avoided service., you should maybe go to the VA and get that metal plate in your head replaced with a plastic one.
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4F? No, as I graduated (that means I completed it, just helping you dumbass) I was being courted by the Air Force. I declined, a highly restrictive environment just wasn't for me. Do I regret it? Nope. Do I have disdain for people that choose it? Nope, except for the ones that think that because the went in they're better than others.
Batsh!t most likely went CO because he knew he would be put into combat, a chicken sh!t loser that he is.
It's funny as hell to watch you back him
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