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I understand the concern when it was first found.  I get it.  You take her out that day and find out what is going on.  Better to be safe than sorry.  You do your investigation.  You find nothing ill willed.  You punish her for violating policy, but you don't EXCESSIVELY punish her by suspending her for the rest of the year.  That is the over reach IMO.  This administration should be replaced for complete incompetence.

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I thought there would have been just a tad bit more outrage over the "excessive" punishment from both sides of the political spectrum.  

She has been barred from her senior prom, banished from classes the rest of the year and had her high school transcripts screwed for college.  She plays school sports, is an honor student and works part time in the community.

That community should be pounding the pavement every single day in front of that school.  I'd like to see parents and her fellow students who were threatened by the school if they participated in demonstrations to protest.



Where are the libbies on this one?  chirp.  chirp.


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One thing for sure, I will not step foot in Wells ever again! I will go to Bakersfield by way of Omaha!

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One thing for sure, I will not step foot in Wells ever again! I will go to Bakersfield by way of Omaha!

Agreed, G-man.  First thought is that seems awful harsh to punish the whole town for the actions of a few, but it is the entire towns' fault for not taking a stand against this idiocy.

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I'd agree it was excessive punishment, but "excessive punishment" is pretty subjective, isn't it?  What punishment would you impose for bringing a 3-inch knife to school?    :dunno:

The story says she was facing expulsion up to one year, they expelled for the rest of the school year.  Well, it's mid-April...  

Zero tolerance policies are bothersome when they impact good kids, but so are double standards.  I can guarantee if it was a poor kid from channel view or Court Street who's family couldn't afford a lawyer, we wouldn't even be talking about this and it wouldn't be in the paper or on national TV.  Does that bother anyone else, or just me?   ???


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I'd agree it was excessive punishment, but "excessive punishment" is pretty subjective, isn't it?  What punishment would you impose for bringing a 3-inch knife to school?    :dunno:

The story says she was facing expulsion up to one year, they expelled for the rest of the school year.  Well, it's mid-April...  

Zero tolerance policies are bothersome when they impact good kids, but so are double standards.  I can guarantee if it was a poor kid from channel view or Court Street who's family couldn't afford a lawyer, we wouldn't even be talking about this and it wouldn't be in the paper or on national TV.  Does that bother anyone else, or just me?   ???

How about just getting rid of the damn zero intelligence tolerance BS?

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NONE.  No punishment required nor needed.


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What punishment would you impose for bringing a 3-inch knife to school?
 I don't know?  In this case-none.  
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I can guarantee if it was a poor kid from channel view or Court Street who's family couldn't afford a lawyer, we wouldn't even be talking about this and it wouldn't be in the paper or on national TV.
You can't guarantee that.  First of all, I'd like to believe that income status bears no more difference than the color of her skin should have.  That knife is no more a weapon than a can of beans until it's turned into one.

I carried a pocket knife all through school from roughly 6th grade on.  So did  quite a few classmates.  I carry one still.  Be golly, forty years of carrying and mine has never turned into a weapon.


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NONE.  No punishment required nor needed.

When kids (er, most kids) are caught with a weapon the parents will fear the worst.  If you know any teachers you'll hear this plenty.  Parents worry about their kids getting hurt so they call, email, or go to the school officials and the police when these things happen.  There's a reason policies get written.

So they should be allowed to have a weapon if they claim they forgot the knife for three days and then "take responsibility" after they're caught with it?   :sarcasm:


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When kids (er, most kids) are caught with a weapon
First off, what is your definition of a weapon?


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Do you know what the best solution is for this?

It's for EVERY student enrolled at USC to bring a similar pocketknife to school, and then for someone to call the police and report that one student has drugs in his/her locker. They will find pocketknives in every locker, and have to expel the entire school in order to comply with policy.

Of course, in doing so, they will lose all of their funding as their enrollment will be zero - but they can't selectively apply the rules, so they'd have to do it - or readmit Drescher.


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