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I wonder how many of those murders don't involve handguns? And how high does that number have to be to render the whole gun control discussion moot?

If we were so bloody concerned about the damned murders, we'd be focusing on what people were murdering each other for, and not the instruments they were using to murder each other with.


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The article I posted is from January 03, 2011.. Not 2001..

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-01...-crimes

I admit my error.  I was in the middle of a couple other things.  Whoops.

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Syria turns over list of chemical arsenal in 1st step of disarmament

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013...ink=cpy
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Syria turns over list of chemical arsenal in 1st step of disarmament

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013...ink=cpy

Whoopee  :sarcasm:

I sorry,

Whoopee SH!t


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I am implying that liberal policies (including their strict gun laws) are not working thus contributing to the massive murder rates. 

So the total murders are high in a city with a high population.  I'm shocked, shocked I say!!   :sarcasm:

Per capita is always a more accurate focus, but media prefers to use aggregate numbers.  The per capita murder rate of New Orleans is far higher than Chicago, and they're a state on the opposite spectrum of Illinois when it comes to gun control.  

And since gun control measures are usually an issue of state law, consider that the murder rate per 100,000 in Louisiana is twice that of both Illinois and New York.  Minnesota is known as much stricter on gun control than Louisiana or Texas, but our per capita murder rates are a fraction of their numbers, the rates per 100,000 murdered in Louisiana are nearly ten times higher than that of Minnesota.  

If I was using conservative logic I would look at the high murder rates in Louisiana and Texas and blame it on conservatives, maybe I'd start a topic blaming Rick Parry and Bobby Jindal for contributing to all those deaths.   :sarcasm:  :dunce:

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the Federal Bureau of Investigation reported 500 murders in Chicago in 2012, up sharply from the 431 recorded in 2011. New York reported 419 murders last year, compared with 515 in 2011.

The total murders in Chicago was 399 in 1928.  That was a few years before the National Firearms Act of 1934 instituting restrictions on machine guns and short-barrel shotguns, and long before the Gun Control Act of 1968.  So obviously it's likely that year to year Chicago's murder rate is going to be in the several hundred regardless of whether gun control is non-existent (1928) or strict (currently).

If gun control is to blame, than why did 399 people get killed before modern gun control even began?   :dunno:

WTF are you talking about?  

We're not talking about per capita murder rates.  We're talking about alcitizens capacity to selectively place blame on government officials for people dying and I called him out on it.  

I don't give a f*** about the per capita...that's not the point of my posts.  Now if you want to start a new debate regarding per capita murder rates... then that's different.

nuff said..
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We're talking about alcitizens capacity to selectively place blame on government officials for people dying and I called him out on it.

Selectively? Bush signed an order to send Americans into harms way..

Bush signed 7000 Americans to death and 10's of thousands to permanent injuries in Iraq and Afghanistan..

Nobody signed orders for the thousands of people who die or are injured on American streets through violence every year..

Yet FOX News wants to hammer on and on and on about 4 Americans killed in Benghazi..  :dunce:  :crazy:
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^ and yet again I ask this idiot! why is the death of 4 Americans unimportant. :dunce:

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^ and yet again I ask this idiot! why is the death of 4 Americans unimportant. :dunce:

It was very important to the terrorists that these 4 Americans were killed in Benghazi..

I feel really bad that terrorists killed these 4 innocent American citizens in Benghazi..

I feel really, really bad if I came across insensitive to you and FOX News that these 4 Americans perished in Benghazi..

May those 4 Americans that died in Benghazi rest in peace along with the 7000 Americans sent to their deaths by President Bush in Iraq and Afghanistan..


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^ yep.  Its still all bush's fault. #facepalm

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Now Kenya's in play, terrorist take over a mall and execute 70 non-Muslim people. I suppose Obama's gonna want to come in and help the "home team" :D

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