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Could have been worse. How much is that same ticket in Freeborn County?
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You know what else isn't a solution, DHS and the TSA.

Rosa-  I have been trying to find a write up by an attorney, about the legality of a homeowner shooting down a drone.


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You know what else isn't a solution, DHS and the TSA.


Completely agree. The government is getting bigger and more out of control every day.
GD, did you see that video someone took of the TSA making everyone in the terminal "freeze"? ----And everyone did, even though the TSA doesn't even have the right to do that, and have absolutely NO reason to do that.

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Rosa-  I have been trying to find a write up by an attorney, about the legality of a homeowner shooting down a drone.


Oh, I do not think it would turn out well for any homeowner who chooses to do such a thing. Do you?
Visions of Ruby Ridge come to mind.
Thanks GD, let me know what you find. Although I think it will be sort of like how Obama's lawyers answered all of Judge Forrest's questions on indefinite detention.... "We won't know until it happens"

Things just keep getting worse, more tyrannical, and most people don't seem to notice. Most don't seem to care even when it's pointed out to them. Does anyone think it is magically going to get better? I don't. And I truly worry what it will be like for my children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren. I worry for everyone's children/grandchildren/great-grandchildren. It doesn't matter how hard a few people try to fix things. Unless the majority wake up and snap out of it, nothing is going to get better. I'd take my family out of the country if I could, but pretty  much all countries are having the same problem. Out of control governments and state-controlled media helping the governments get that way.


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Rosa-  From what I remember, it involved a gun club and an annual dove hunt, and the local peta (or some other whacked out moronic anti-hunting douche bag club) decided it would be a good idea to use a privately purchased drone and fly it over the hunting area, well the hunters didn't take to kindly of this drone flying about, and it was shot down.

The person controlling said drone, called the police and reported destruction of property and the police quickly shut down the hunt to get to the bottom of it.  Well it went to court and the court found in favor of the hunting club, declaring that the drone had violated the 50 foot air space rule of private property and the drone controller was infringing upon the clubs 4th Amendment.

From that case this attorney looked into past law, both federal and state and had written an article on the legality of a person shooting down a drone controlled by police, etc.

The article was written early in the year, and of course the website I thought it was at(lawersgunsmoneyblog), I can no longer find it, or I am just getting old and cannot remember where I read it.


Also, the T(ickle) and S(exual)A(ssault) morons, do not have the authority to order people to stop and freeze.  You can ignore that order and go about your day at the airport, there are countless people who ignore it.  Also, after you have been through the security check point, and you are waiting in the secure area, and some tsa moron lackey wants to search your stuff again, you can tell them NO, they DO NOT have the authority as they are not law enforcement (state or federal) they lack the credentials (commission) that a police officer or a federal police officer must acquire.
The same also applies to detainment, the tsa cannot detain you, if tsa insists on detaining you, ask for a police officer or call a lawyer.


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I think I will print copies of TSA rules and stand outside of a couple airports and hand them out to people and inform them of their rights. I should also have someone around filming it because I'm almost positive it would lead to me having problems with TSA. I would consider that as an act of civil disobedience rather than official trouble-making. (Even if I get my ass kicked by the goons)

I've been thinking more about homeowners shooting down drones. At first I was worried that it wouldn't bode well for the homeowner, now I'm thinking the homeowner would probably not even know they were being watched. Sounds like the drones have pretty powerful cameras and can most likely see from pretty far away. Dunno, just something that popped into mind about it.

Then there's the reports of military using drones in America. What are your thoughts on that?

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“We’ve seen in some records that were released by the Air Force just recently, that under their rules, they are allowed to fly drones in public areas and record information on domestic situations,” says Jennifer Lynch, an attorney with the San Francisco based Electronic Frontier Association, who is looking into various government surveillance techniques.

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012...-police

Without a doubt you know more about the Posse Comitatus Act than I do. Just wondering how military drones fit in with that.


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Rosalind,
Use of drones by law enforcement was a major topic this morning at our Old Guys Fix Everything coffee meeting.


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Use of drones by law enforcement was a major topic this morning at our Old Guys Fix Everything coffee meeting.

LOL, I like your club name. So what are you Old Guys saying about the drones? How do people feel of their use?

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Went through airport screening tonight at DTW.  I haven't felt that good in days...years if you count someone other than the mrs...  :blush:
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It's only a matter of time before people get killed by a drone crash. latest drone crash happened next to an elementary school in PA. Drone crashes are rarely mentioned in mainstream national news . Mostly just little local stations and alternative "kook" sites, just like everything else we should being informed about. If you don't already know about it, just put into search- drone crash on US soil.
I suppose there's nothing that can be done about the drones huh? There's just gonna be more and more all the time. And I suppose the natural progression of things means that it won't be long before some of them are used for more than surveillance?


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From what I remember, it involved a gun club and an annual dove hunt, and the local peta (or some other whacked out moronic anti-hunting douche bag club) decided it would be a good idea to use a privately purchased drone and fly it over the hunting area, well the hunters didn't take to kindly of this drone flying about, and it was shot down.

First off, what a cheery little YouTube video that would have made, here comes the happy little surveillance drone, bzzzzzzzzzzzzz into the distance, and then suddenly Blam baBlamBlam! Crack! Blam! and down goes the now not-so-happy little drone. How satisfying.

That said, I think it's complete B as in B, S as in S that we've allowed it to get this far. It's becoming an Orwellian nightmare in this country, and everyone's like, "Meh. What's on Netflix?" Hopefully a documentary on the Trail of Tears, or perhaps the Holocaust, because we need to be reminded what happens when governments do outrageous things, and no one lifts a finger to stop them.


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