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Posted on: Dec. 28 2011,1:56 pm |
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QUOTE At an elementary school in Smyrna, Tenn., student Nicholas Taylor, 10, has been ordered to spend lunches for the rest of the semester at the lunchroom's "silent table" because he allegedly picked up a piece of pizza and waved it around like a gun.
According to a WKRN television report, school officials say Taylor "threatened" other students "with a piece of pizza with bites out of it so it looked like a gun."
The station said his mother, LeAnn Taylor, described the punishment as "absolutely ridiculous" and said her son never said anything derogatory or anything about shooting.
"The kid across the table from him said it looked like a gun so he picked it up and started shooting it in the air," she said, according the television report.
A school official, James Evans, said the punishment actually is because "some students reported he was making some threatening hand gestures, that he was shooting at other kids at the table, and they reported it to a teacher."
Howard Portney's irony-laced commentary at Hot Air.com speculated, "Evans did not reveal whether any of the students sustained injuries from the shooting, though a forensic analysis should help investigators determine whether any red splotches found at the scene are tomato sauce or blood."
The commentary noted the punishment could lead to further trouble.
"I am no psychologist, but doesn't associating mealtime with punishment send the sort of negative message that leads to problem eating? Paging Michelle Obama and the food police," he wrote.
"In addition to the stigma of silent lunch, Nicholas was required to meet with the school resource officer to learn about gun safety. I submit that the school should have further required that the child … meet with the dietitian to discuss pizza safety."
The controversy developed, according to the WKRN report, a few days ago at David Youree Elementary School in Smyrna, a part of the Rutherford County School District.
Evans wrote, "I realize some might say we are going overboard but the principal is just trying to use an abundance of caution and send the message that we don't play about guns and it's not something we joke around about."
Taylor told the station the school made it clear if her son eats his pizza into the shape of a gun again and there is another incident, he would be suspended.
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We have guns on TV, guns in video games, and yet educators get to behave like this??? B as in B, S as in S.
The only thing we should have zero-tolerance for is school zero-tolerance policies. 
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White Pride
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Posted on: Dec. 28 2011,4:01 pm |
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How the hell did we ever manage to grow-up, playing cops n robbers, cowboys n indians, army, etc? WOW
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I'm an ENGLISH speaking white GERMAN-AMERICAN, and DAMN PROUD OF IT!
What bothers people more... the fact others disagree w/them, or that the others just might be right after all?
If you're being stupid, acting stupid, or just plain stupid, I will not hesitate to let u know!
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Posted on: Dec. 28 2011,5:00 pm |
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Well, cmon now. We all know that guns are bad mmmkay.
He could start shooting pepperoni's, or even worse, Italian sausages at the students. 
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After we screw up health care reform, let's take on the initiative of unscrewing the education system (gov't education)
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Grinning_Dragon
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Posted on: Dec. 28 2011,6:19 pm |
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I read about this a few days ago.
This type of action shows just how illogical, the idiots who run a school have become.
It is not the weapon that kills, it is a cold heart with the desire to kill that does the killing.
How anyone can defend this type of rule, action or edict is a complete moron, and should be culled from the human race.
EMOTIONS have NO business in determining any such rule, people who rule with emotions are not fit to lead!
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*The object of war is NOT to DIE for YOUR Country, but to make the OTHER BASTARD DIE for HIS...Patton
My Constitutional Rights trump your dead.
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Posted on: Dec. 28 2011,6:54 pm |
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Emotions? You yourself said that objects dont kill and its about intent. Do any of you kooks believe the school administration thought he was going to hurt someone with that pizza, or do you you think they were addressing the behavior of pretending to shoot classmates?
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Grinning_Dragon
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Posted on: Dec. 28 2011,7:15 pm |
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(Liberal @ Dec. 28 2011,6:54 pm)
QUOTE Emotions? You yourself said that objects dont kill and its about intent. Do any of you kooks believe the school administration thought he was going to hurt someone with that pizza, or do you you think they were addressing the behavior of pretending to shoot classmates?
Please.
Are you inferring that a child that picks up a piece of pizza and says, Im going to shoot you, is really his intent to come to school the next day and light up the place like a shooting gallery?
Or is it possible that, it is what kids do, play and pretend.
My kids run around with object and pretend they are guns and say, Im gonna shoot you, bang, bang, you're dead, can't get me, and run off laughing. And I do not give it one single thought that they are gonna go off on a shooting spree, in fact I join them in playing guns.
And you call us kooks for questioning any type of this zero policy crap, that is all based on emotion and some how has any relevance in reducing the so called perceived school violence? It is this very type of zero policy that is thought up by kooks.
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memoria of cado frater ,Semper fidelis
*The object of war is NOT to DIE for YOUR Country, but to make the OTHER BASTARD DIE for HIS...Patton
My Constitutional Rights trump your dead.
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Posted on: Dec. 28 2011,9:11 pm |
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My point in bringing this all up was simply that this poor kid will likely be far more stigmatized by his exile at the "quiet table" than any kid that had a pistol-shaped piece of pizza pointed at them.
My God, we're writing the rule book around a bunch of 'what if' scenarios. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. That is not just a clever line from a Star Trek movie. How many high schools weren't experiencing a Columbine High day, when Columbine High was?
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Botto 82
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Posted on: Dec. 28 2011,9:13 pm |
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We have completely lost our ability to differentiate between an isolated incident and a social trend.
Consider...
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Grinning_Dragon
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Posted on: Dec. 28 2011,9:54 pm |
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You're right Botto, it seems to be the norm lately; is to pass rules pertaining to the what if. Quite an illogical stance to take.
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memoria of cado frater ,Semper fidelis
*The object of war is NOT to DIE for YOUR Country, but to make the OTHER BASTARD DIE for HIS...Patton
My Constitutional Rights trump your dead.
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