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The Shellrock River Watershed District has been very active in working on cleaning up our lakes. People throughout the state and nation are in awe at how much they have accomplished in the short amount of time they have been in existence.

Look at the water clarity of our lakes. Can anyone ever remember seeing the water clarity in Pickerel Lake so clear? How about the Edgewater parks dump site and the mark improvement it made to Fountain Lake after it was cleaned up. Then there are the holding ponds that were put in between Hwy 65 and South Shore drive that stopped the flooding problems that often happened out there. Look at the clarity of the water in Albert Lea Lake. These are just a few examples of what the Shellrock River Watershed District has been doing.

How many of you go fishing on our lakes? How many of you walk around the lake? Have any of you ever been camping out on Big Island? How many of you take your boats out on the lakes? Were any of you out duck hunting on Pickerel Lake last fall? The lakes are for everyone to enjoy that chooses to use them not just the property owners.

Debate is good and everyone has a right to their opinion. But the cleanup of our lakes will have a lasting effect on the quality of life here for generations to come.

The last dredging was done about 40 years ago. How long will this dredging last? Dams slow down the water, and slow water dumps sediment... Fountain and Albert Lea lakes are both prairie potholes and nature will always be working it's magic to return them to what nature intended them to be.... :dunno: ....ned
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It's why we need to say NO TO DREDGING at this juncture! We can't afford dredging at this time. $4 gas and rising. Greedy utilities..now is NOT the time to be piling on property taxes. This is real money.

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Dams slow down the water, and slow water dumps sediment


It keeps the current from moving along like a river too it seems. Which is basically what both lakes are right?

If you watch the currents they seem to shift and swirl. Moving what would be considered upstream in places.

At least that's what it looks anyway.
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How does the dredging process work exactly?

Isn't there supposedly some plan for draining the big section, "Albert Lea" lake, and making islands out of the sediment or something.

Can you drain the whole thing and dig it down a 1,000 feet. That would keep the sediment issue at bay for a while. lol

Plus think of the bragging rights.
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Look at the water clarity of our lakes. Can anyone ever remember seeing the water clarity in Pickerel Lake so clear? How about the Edgewater parks dump site and the mark improvement it made to Fountain Lake after it was cleaned up. Then there are the holding ponds that were put in between Hwy 65 and South Shore drive that stopped the flooding problems that often happened out there. Look at the clarity of the water in Albert Lea Lake. These are just a few examples of what the Shellrock River Watershed District has been doing.

I posted a few pictures in a different thread last fall showing the clarity of Pickeral with Secchi disks.  When they first started monitoring the lake, the clarity was around 5-6 inches.  Last year after much of their reclamation was completed, the clarity is nearing four feet.  In fact if you look at the clarity of Fountrain, last year it was the best on record at over two and a half feet due to a cleaner Pickeral.

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The Shellrock River Watershed District has been very active in working on cleaning up our lakes. People throughout the state and nation are in awe at how much they have accomplished in the short amount of time they have been in existence.

Look at the water clarity of our lakes. Can anyone ever remember seeing the water clarity in Pickerel Lake so clear? How about the Edgewater parks dump site and the mark improvement it made to Fountain Lake after it was cleaned up. Then there are the holding ponds that were put in between Hwy 65 and South Shore drive that stopped the flooding problems that often happened out there. Look at the clarity of the water in Albert Lea Lake. These are just a few examples of what the Shellrock River Watershed District has been doing.

How many of you go fishing on our lakes? How many of you walk around the lake? Have any of you ever been camping out on Big Island? How many of you take your boats out on the lakes? Were any of you out duck hunting on Pickerel Lake last fall? The lakes are for everyone to enjoy that chooses to use them not just the property owners.

Debate is good and everyone has a right to their opinion. But the cleanup of our lakes will have a lasting effect on the quality of life here for generations to come.

The last dredging was done about 40 years ago. How long will this dredging last? Dams slow down the water, and slow water dumps sediment... Fountain and Albert Lea lakes are both prairie potholes and nature will always be working it's magic to return them to what nature intended them to be... :dunno: ...ned

One would think with current farm practices and such, a dredge now would last much longer. :dunno:
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The last dredge was rather small for the project--able to dredge deep-water "holes", but hardly the entire bottom.

Dredges are usually hydraulic vacuums--sucking muck and water out of the lake, and piping it on land for disposal--sometimes quite a distance.  The area between Edgewater Park and the old golf course clubhouse is dredge fill--as is the skating rink area by Shoreland Heights.

One of the problems is that in the People's Democratic Republic of Minnesota (where, as Garage Logic says, "Absolutely NOTHING is legal") anything removed from a lake bottom is treated as "hazardous waste."  That means that all of that fill and the water that is sucked up with it is not supposed to leak back into the lake.  That makes dredging VERY expensive.

Oddly enough, the Army Corps of Engineers creates islands in the middle of the Mississippi when dredging to maintain the barge channel--but that's OK--since it is an Interstate navigable waterway.  I guess Federal dirt isn't as "dirty" as State dirt.

I've flown Bob Mehsikomer--the guy that does the TV show "Simply Fishing".  When we talked about the problems of lake dredging in Minnesota, he said (only partly in jest) "It would be cheaper to buy some land adjoining the lake, get some scrapers out to excavate a new lake, and use the dirt to fill in the old lake!" :sarcasm:  :D

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Can you drain the whole thing and dig it down a 1,000 feet. That would keep the sediment issue at bay for a while. lol

 There IS an accumulation.  Fairmont says that normal suspended particles and windblown dirt accumulated 40 centimeters in 25 years--just for point of reference.

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I'm pretty sure Jethro would be for making the whole thing a big C-MENT pond.

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RAIN BARREL TRUCKLOAD SALE

Date
Saturday, June 18, 2011

Time
9:00 am – 3:00 pm CDT

Where
Oak Park Mall Parking Lot- 1301 18th Ave NW Austin, MN 55912

Northbridge Mall Parking Lot - 2510 Bridge Ave, Albert Lea, MN 56007

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ONE DAY ONLY! Rain Barrel Truckload Sale $150 Value - Only $60

Saturday June, 18th, 2011 9 a.m. - 3 p.m.

2 Locations - Oak Park Mall Parking Lot 1301 18th Ave NW- Austin, MN & Northbridge Mall Parking Lot, 2510 Bridge Ave Albert Lea, MN

Hosted by: Cedar River Watershed District, Shell Rock Watershed District, Austin's Izaak Walton League, Freeborn County Soil & Water Conservation District, Mower County Soil & Water Conservation District, Austin Coalition for Environmental Sustainability, Freeborn County Sportsman's Club, and Austin Utilities. (Rebates available for Austin Utilites Water Customers & Shell Rock Watershed Residents.)


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■$130 value for $60

For more information: Austin Residents: Contact Justin Hanson - Cedar River Watershed District at 507-434-2603 Albert Lea Rsidents: Contact Connie Kaupa - Shell Rock Watershed District at 507-377-5785

shellrock.org

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Lakes near farmland collect tons of sediment, and chemical runoff. Until farmers truly change their practices dredging will continue. Take a look at rural drainage ditches and streams after a downpour. Brown. Once marshlands were able to absorb sediment runoff. Nowdays it's a brown rush of water from field to ditch to stream to lake.

And many farmers with land adjacent to lakes have the strange idea that the lake is theirs to manage. They manipulate the DNR. County commissioners side with local big farmers. Local rural politics smells like a manure lagoon.
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