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Paul Harvey 
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Posted on: Jan. 15 2005,4:14 pm |
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We should of thought of that before we blew the farm on a $40,000,000 courthouse.
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southside
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Posted on: Jan. 15 2005,5:17 pm |
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"All the negativity that is in this town s++ks" Rick Pitino
The courthouse did not bring about all the peoples negativity. We as citizens have to right this ship as best we can as individuals.
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Liberal
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Posted on: Jan. 15 2005,5:55 pm |
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The main reason people are complaining about this tax is because it's unfair. According to the county tax records, my city taxes will increase over 150% and that huge house across from Edgewater park will see an increase of around 5% if they enact this rain and dark tax.
Why should my city taxes increase 30 times more than his for the same rain?
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LardStacker
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Posted on: Jan. 15 2005,7:41 pm |
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| Quote | | The courthouse did not bring about all the peoples negativity. |
Your so right Southside, people on this forum are too negative.
| Quote | | We as citizens have to right this ship as best we can as individuals. |
Your so right again Southside. The first thing we need to do is throw the thieving captain off this pirate ship.
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irisheyes
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Posted on: Jan. 16 2005,8:48 am |
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| Quote (southside @ Jan. 15 2005,4:03,pm) | I recently talked to a councilman, and if this tax does not go through, there will be no new capital improvements this year.
People on this board talk about a better city, but nobody wants to pay for anything. |
If you got this impression from the councilman that you talked to, my guess is that it's one of the council members that thinks the city should spend its way into prosperity. Unfortunately, I don't think it works that way.
You don't think anymore cuts are possible? I do. Why is it that even though the population is steadily decreasing, we still require the same, if not more city employees?
| Quote | | People if we want to better this community, Why don't we look at the big picture, not what it will cost us now but what are the rewards of this.. |
So we shouldn't look at what things will cost us now? That doesn't sound fiscally responsible. What are the rewards? Think about that... What are the rewards for overspending? Bankruptcy! Not prosperity through new taxes. That is the big picture, because businesses and residents thinking about moving consider these things important when they make a decision of where to go.
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Alfy Packer
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Posted on: Jan. 16 2005,10:21 am |
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Let's see, we've gotten a 2nd city manager, and created a new HR position in the last year. The second city manager is payed $90,000, the same as the other one who we move off to do 1/2 of the job he was doing. The second city manager who is doing the other 1/2 of the job that was being done by one person before, needed the new HR position, cutting her job to lets say 1/4 of the job the one person was doing before. O' ya, and we had to staff that new HR job twice since creating it earlier this summer.
Why we are going to need a new city hall to put all these people in who are doing 1/4 of the job they use to do. Now I can see why we need to find some way to tax all the churches in town, but spare the golf clubs.
I think we should thank Mayor Jean, and her clone for this great vision they are bringing to our community. And just think, it is so politically correct that we can't afford it.
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MADDOG
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Posted on: Jan. 16 2005,10:34 am |
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OH, that was right straight to the gut.  How 'bout a shot at some county workers. I'd enjoy that more. Let's not cut to the chase and leave no man out!
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LardStacker
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Posted on: Jan. 16 2005,10:52 am |
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We should get rid of the Harbor Master before he pays Ron H. another $40K to sell the old school for $2, then move the library down to the old Walmart. It would give kids a awesome place to hang out at. “The Megalibrary”
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Paul Harvey
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Posted on: Jan. 16 2005,11:15 am |
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The trouble is in how the system is set up.
There's no incentive for anyone in government to save. That may mean cutting their freinds jobs or possibly slowing their expansion into better paying positions. No one gets rewarded for keeping costs down. One gets rewarded by getting the public to fork over an ever increasing amount of their income to government. But this hurts growth by removing money from the marketplace. Every dollar Simonson wants from you will be money kept from the free market. Less money for businesses to thrive on. 1 dollar turns to 7 in the free market.
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Expatriate
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Posted on: Jan. 16 2005,3:04 pm |
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Most Cities lose money in their Public works section like sewer and water it costs a bundle to upgrade and keep these things up to snuff.
But like street, park, police, library and other sections of city government there things we need to make A.L. a great place to live.
Other communities have Public Utilities that own power plants and run gas departments line crews that's where the money is made to support the other utilities. In Albert lea you stuff your check in a envelope and send it to Iowa where Alliant makes the profit.
It costs about one million dollars a megawatt to build a power plant,
Hmmm lets see 40 for the court house 30 for the school that's 70 million.well that's a 70 megawatt power plant. A city the size of Albert lea would use about 30 megs in the winter 40 in the summer that leaves you a good 30 megs to sell on the open market.
While we're at it lets give charter cable the boot and get a high speed Internet connection and cable TV service run by the city for a reasonable price the same city line crews that service the power lines can service the cable. This would provide many good paying jobs reduce taxes for all and we'd have money for a library and a downtown revitalization project maybe we could even clean up that lower lake.
It would also attract new industry a reliable source of power at a reasonable rate is a factor in locating factories. We've all seen what deregulation of electricity did to California those cities without the ability to generate electricity got nailed to the cross.
What I'm proposing would cost far more then 70 million, but you have to make an investment to get a return.
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