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hootchfish 
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Posted on: Apr. 18 2009,7:41 pm |
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(Madd Max @ Apr. 11 2009,9:47 am)
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(gljoefan @ Apr. 10 2009,3:22 pm)
QUOTE a private dam? Where is the proof that it's a private dam? Everything I can find says itis own buy the county.
Bruce Palmer would know.
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Blackwell
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Posted on: Apr. 19 2009,1:34 pm |
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(hootchfish @ Apr. 18 2009,7:41 pm)
QUOTE Bruce Palmer would know.
Looks like it was settled in 2001
County ready to resolve dam ownership dispute
Staff
Published Thursday, November 8, 2001
Freeborn County will take a step forward on the stalled restoration project for Albert Lea Lake Dam, or Juglans Dam.
Thursday, November 08, 2001
Freeborn County will take a step forward on the stalled restoration project for Albert Lea Lake Dam, or Juglans Dam. It has confirmed that the county is the legal owner of the dam, and it will start negotiating with the landowner about an easement.
The dam holding the water pouring into Shell Rock River requires major renovation to control the lake's water level. But the project has been stalled due to the ambiguity of ownership.
In 1958 the county gave away a part of old County Road 19 and a bridge crossing over the dam to a private landowner when it rerouted the road. Since then the ball has been bouncing among the county, the landowner and the state regarding the responsibility for overhauling the structure.
County attorney Craig Nelson accepted the an opinion by the State Attorney General Office and concluded that the county owns the dam.
Nelson pointed out during the county board meeting on Tuesday that the easement right still needs to be cleared to start the restoration.
The 1958 county resolution implies the county's willingness to maintain some authority for the dam, stating "reserving however to the County of Freeborn, its agents and invitees, the right of access to, egress and ingress across said premises to and from the Juglans Dam situated on or near the above described premises."
However, no easement rights of the county were ever recorded before and after the resolution
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MADDOG
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Posted on: Apr. 19 2009,5:21 pm |
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Thank you very much Mr. Blackwell. I didn't have time to post that article before I had to leave this morning.
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MADDOG
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Posted on: Apr. 20 2009,6:26 am |
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The big question isn't who owns the dam. I don't think anyone can question who owns it if you read back through the history of it.
If you're looking at who walked away from insuring public access to the Shell Rock?
QUOTE ADJOURNED MEETING OF THE COUNTY BOARD
October 7, 2008
The Chair opened the meeting to the public for comments on County Hwy 19 bridge replacement. Those in favor of the Bridge/Dam Project presented by the Shell Rock River Watershed are: Larry Anderson, Ken Nelson, Michael Kennis, Tony Trow, Carol Bertelson, Don Sorenson, Harley Miller, Dave Mullenbach, Roger Nelson, Scott Hanna, Marlys Webber, Randy Kerr. Those against the project: Gordon Jensen
Commissioner Behrends offered the following resolution:
RESOLUTION 08-159
Approval of the Bridge/Dam Project
MOVED, to accept Shell Rock River Watershed’s Bridge/Dam replacement project and move forward with the replacement of the bridge and dam.
Resolution seconded by Commissioner Shoff.
After discussion, a vote was taken and the Chair declared the resolution failed for a lack of a majority vote. The vote is as follows: Ayes – Shoff, Behrends and Nays – Belshan, Nelson and Mathiason.
Comissioner Belshan offered the following motion:
MOVED, have the County Engineer proceed with getting plans prepared for the repairs of bridge #815 on County Hwy 19.
Motion seconded by Commissioner Nelson.
After discussion, a vote was taken and the Chair declared the motion approved. The vote is as follows: Ayes – Belshan, Berhends, Nelson, Mathiason, and the Nays- Shoff. Funny how just a few miles south, recreation is accessible. Worth county knows the river is public.
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Madd Max
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This is from a flyer Canoeing the Shell Rock River
www.co.cerro-gordo.ia.us
Safety: •
Always wear your personal flotation device (PFD).
• Be aware of potential hazards such as lowhead dams, snags, rapids, and fences.
• NEVER attempt to run lowhead dams; ALWAYS portage around them.
• DO NOT ATTEMPT FLOAT TRIPS AT HIGH WATER LEVELS. ALL rivers are unpredictable and dangerous at this time.
Cerro-Gordo county tells people to portage around low head dam
Yet in Freeborn County they want to make that impossible at the Shellrock River Dam by not allowing a Safe portage around the dam or access to the shell rock just below the dam.
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hootchfish
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Posted on: Apr. 20 2009,9:01 am |
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I've caught lots of nice walleyes and pike from the dam down to Glenville, the rivers you do have are a great asset recognized only by a limited few really.
Your lakes are in rough shape, BUT they too are a great community asset, I can only imagine the pressure they'd get if they were in better condition.
I've thought it over and there is no doubt a tradeoff, MORE people, MORE money, or just a good fishing spot.
I like quality water and the temptation is to restore it, but thousands of people are enjoying it as it is already, maybe just cleaning the shores regularly is good enough for now.
Dredging never makes sense unless you stop the siltation sources and that will be incremental at best.
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