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Slow news day--time to throw another topic out there.

Rush resigned from his position as "color commentator" (their words, not mine!)  :) at ESPN after his co-announcers found his comments about quarterback McNabb politically incorrect.  Limbaugh had opined that McNabb, while a good quarterback, had been over-rated by network commentators in their zeal to see a black quarterback succeed.

The major networks, eager to chip away at ESPN, (and get in a shot at Limbaugh), jumped on the story.  ESPN, after initially backing Limbaugh, reversed itself, and Limbaugh offerred his resignation.

Now, it turns out, Limbaugh was not alone in his assessment of McNabb.  A number of sports writers have written columns about the same subject in the preceeding weeks--but they weren't aired on National TV, or spoken by a talk-show host that encourages controversy.  See the comments HERE:  http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34910

This goes beyond McNabb, Limbaugh, and ESPN.  It goes to the desire for a black quarterback to succeed.  Several years ago, the question in the NFL is "why no black head coaches?"  After the question had been raised, any team that hired a WHITE coach had to explain why.  Are black quarterbacks immune from criticism because of this rule?

It also questions ESPN's objectivity--they hire commentators to COMMENT, as opposed to PLAY-BY-PLAY announcers.  The job of a commentator is to criticize and critique--to make observations--and yes, to stir up controversy and provide a launching pad for other commentators to launch their own observations.  Rush did just that--but there are certain things you dare not say on national TV--another Orwellian prediction come true.

Would this have been as controversial if John Madden had made the comment--someone that is IN the game?  If not, then WHO MAKES THE STATEMENT means more than the ACCURACY of the statement.

It appears that there is a consensus among sportswriters that McNabb IS over-rated--so what Rush said was true.  If this is the case, the shame should be on ESPN, for letting a non-sports "agenda" take precedence over reporting FACTS.


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We should probably cut him some slack since he was most likely all hopped up on painkillers when he said it.

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ESPN. If a black announcer said the same it would have never been looked back on. As far as dare not say somthing on national TV, don't take lessons from Jimmy the Greek
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I forgot about him--good point!  And for a TRULY racist quote, how about Howard Cosells' "look at that little monkey run!"?

Commentators have been "ranking" or rating players for years--analyzing their strengths and weaknesses--but THIS time, by THIS commentator, about THIS quarterback, it's "wrong".

I don't listen to KFAN, but one of our guys said that McNabb was rated 31 out of 32 starting quarterbacks this year (I don't know the catagory).  I don't know where to even start in finding NFL statistics--anybody have a way to verify?


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Rush is wrong because he made a racist statement.  If he would have left out the part about the media wanting a black quarterback to succeed there would have been nothing wrong with what he said.  The other quotes from the other writers never mentioned his race that's why there isn't a public outcry about their remarks.

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PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 03 2003,3:56 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

It was stupid of ESPN to hire Rush in the first place. They should have seen something like this coming. Did you see Tommy Jacksons face when Rush was saying it? My guess is Rush quit for his own safety, Jackson and Michael Irvin were gonna kill him. LOL.

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Liberal--I agree--kind of.  I've vacillated back and forth on this issue, and I've come to the conclusion that he made a RACIAL statement--but not a RACIST statement--AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION.  Rush didn't bad-mouth all blacks, and to my knowledge didn't bad-mouth McNabb for BEING black.  As I understand it, he made a statement that he was over-rated, THEN went on to state that there was a fervent desire for a black quarterback to succeed in the league, and that (perhaps) that was the reason that he was rated higher than his performance actually warranted.

Once again, I don't think that if John Madden, or a black commentator, had made the comment, it would have even been noticed--and if that's the case, that's wrong.

I'm not a big sports fan, but I get the feeling that this is more about political correctness and the SUBJECT of race than about racism--the sports commentary is only the vehicle.


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with as many black quarterbacks that are in the NFL today,there is really no need for the media to over- hype a black quarterback.there are plenty of good ones.

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A good friend of mine always wore a hat that was embroidered  "Rush Is Right" That was Walter Trow I bet he is looking down from heaven and shaking his head at this one.
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Funny how this painkiller thing popped up suddenly. I may not be a fan of Rush Limbaugh, but, I viewed it as oh yeah LETS GET HIM now for those people who have always had it in for him. Limbaugh doesn't say what the general media wants to hear. This is the very reason that I was shocked when I say him commenting on a football game last week. This is not to say that I agree with his comments. But, I agree it was because of who he is that this is newsworthy. Truly, agree if it were John Madden-------it wouldn't have hit the fan.
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