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Post Number: 11
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Oct. 08 2003,4:27 pm |
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Yes, that was what I meant--$10 an our more fore each hour for every man on the job.
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Post Number: 12
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danbelshan
Group: Members
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Posted on: Oct. 08 2003,5:46 pm |
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AnswersPosted on Oct. 08 2003,3:09:pm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan -
How did this latest bid come up - by Gabrielson or A-P? Are they just telling the board what the lowest bid is, recommending approval, requesting any discussion or input? The media doesn't provide much insight (big surprise).
It looks like the other commisioners are just rubber-stamping these deals. Is this what's happening? Are you the only one concerned about this?
I'm not looking for everyone's opinions about the board on this one. I simply want to hear from Dan as to what happened.
To answer your questions, including direct quotes from my audio tape: This work was bid before and the bids came in too high. This was a rebid. Tim Clark of A&P handed out a sheet of paper at our meeting with the names and amounts of three low bidders in three catagories and recommended their approval as low bids.
The motion was made by Comm. Mullenbach and seconded by Comm. Springborg.
Chr. Behrends: "Comments. I just have one question,were there any local bidders that bid on these packages?"
Tim Clark: "We tried to break it apart to make 'em smaller so some of the smaller local guys could get it but we didn't, we didn't get much _."(couldn't understand that word).
Chr.Behrends: "Any other questions or comments for Tim?"
Belshan:"Tim, ah, we bid this before. Where were we--I can't recall exactly what the bids were, did these come in under? Didn't we bid and we refused to take those?"
Tim Clark:"Yeah, it was over budget, there was a little bit of misunderstanding I think with the some of the scope of work and bid documents. We broke it apart, we could get better coverage, more people bidding, genearate more interest, um cleared up any questions that they might have had ah previously, and rebid it and I think it turned out pretty good."
Belshan: "What was that total before, when we didn't have it broken apart?"
Tim Clark: "Ah, right offhand I don't remember the exact dollars."
I then asked if these were bid prevailing wage items. Tim said they were.
I asked if they had to be prevailing wage and Tim replied,"That was the direction I was given."
The Chair asked for any other questions or comments and there were none. The vote was 4 to 1 to approve. My vote was no, and I asked that it reflect that we didn't have to go prevailing wage on this bid.
Did we have any of the info ahead of time? I didn't. The Chairman asked if there were local bidders, so it doesn't look like he saw the bid info ahead of time either, but you'll need to ask him if he saw any of the bids or bid info before it was passed out at the meeting. I am out of the loop on this, and saw no bids or info other than the one sheet of paper passed out at the meeting for us to approve. The Courthouse grounds committee is currently Chairman Behrends and Vice Chair Mathiason. They don't ask my opinion on Courthouse matters.
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Post Number: 13
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shaker
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Posted on: Oct. 09 2003,12:16 am |
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Chr. Behrends comment: I have just one question, were there any local bidders that bid on these packages?? Now I have one question, If Behrends and Mathiason are on the courthouse grounds committe--SHOULDN'T THEY HAVE SEEN THE BIDS, SHOULDN'T THEY KNOW WHO BIDS, OR DO THEY JUST TAKE TIM CLARKS WORD ON THIS. I guess I would think that they would be takeing an active interest in this process seeing as how they are the ones on the grounds committe.
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