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He could easily be beaten by even an average opponent and hope he is. In my view Dan is a big part of the problem. I disagree with most of his votes, even though you could say I'm republican on most issues. He's just more of the typical "Albert Lea trash thinker" that I've learned to despise.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Dan vote to lower the legal limit to .08 and also to extend the bar hours?  How does that work?

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My post was in no way intended to make anyone think Dan Dorman is bought and paid for by this group.  It's insane to think that the small amount of money that group gives both the republicans and democrats would influence any politicians vote.

I only posted that info because repdan got me thinking after he posted asking "maybe you can tell me where I have taken money from "the industry?". I started wondering where his and other politicians election money comes from and found that site. If you take the time to look over the site you'll see that Dan is no different than any other politician in either party though.

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Guest, the way you back peddled on that post makes me think you may be a politician too.

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"It's insane to think that the small amount of money that group gives both the republicans and democrats would influence any politicians vote."

There's a lot of insane people around these parts. You don't have to be insane to be greedy and stupid.
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I went thru the first two pages that guest linked to (the 3rd one wouldn't work, I tried it a few times).  I ran all the numbers available, my conclusion is, it was a big waste of time.  I don't see any rationale that would even give the impression that Dan's vote would be affected by this long maze of circular logic.  How much money do you think would funnel thru the two other organizations and end up in repdan's campaign, I doubt it's enough money to pay for one yard sign.  Either way, its a weak arguement.

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What's really a weak argument is restricting beer to liquor stores. I'm from Iowa where it's possible to buy beer anywhere and it's been like that since before I was born. Afterall, THIS is where fountain centers is located so don't give me the standard BS argument about more alcoholism.

Why must polititions make moral decisions and purchasing decisions on my behalf anyhow!  :angry: How dare some retarded son of a tire shop owner dictate where I'll buy beer!  And I don't even drink.
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I never said his vote was influenced. (Infact my first post offered no opinion either way).

Repdan posted and said that he wanted to be shown where he got money from that group.  He didn't ask to prove that his vote was influenced. So I posted the links showing him how he takes money from that group.

Circular logic?  It would only be circular if Dorman gave the lobbiest the money back at the end. Besides you don't even believe it to be circular logic yourself that's why you minimize the amount of money that funnels down to his campaign in your very next sentence.

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I called it circular logic because your linking several political organizations until you come up with a desired conclusion.  I realize though, your post was unbiased as to the issue, but I was directing the part about its influence to other posters that have come to that conclusion (sorry I didn't specify that).

Back to the issue of the thread.  I don't drink, but I don't have any problem with letting them sell wine or beer in grocery stores, or gas stations either.


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your linking several political organizations until you come up with a desired conclusion.


I'm not linking anything. The money creates the link. Also I didn't come to any "desired" conclusion. I looked up where Dorman gets his money.  The majority comes from one fund, so I looked up the source of that fund and found that the money in that fund comes comes from 100's of sources and one of them is the Minn Licensed Beverage Assoc.

The website I linked to was called followthemoney.org and that's all I did, I offered no opinion either way and I didn't have a desired conclusion to reach.

Before you accuse someone of manufacturing information or drawing their own conclusion you should verify that the the facts are wrong.(Like I said in the first post I could be wrong)

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