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I see no reason that since the Federal Government is spending untold billions of dollars on the subject already why they can not upgrade the equipment to scan for things like this. They have seen fit to put visible security measures in place in airports that honestly do little to no good except harass people that want to bring their fingernail clippers on a flight with them, now they have instituted a color code system when you get your ticket (green, yellow and red I think) where if you are issued a red ticket, you will not be able to board the plane and may be arrested at the gate. (nothing like telling someone early that they are being watched and may be arrested, duh).
Instead of spending so much money on stupid deterrents, why not put the money to good use; like scanning equipment?
The 'war' is costing us more and more by the day, but yet in the REAL crucial areas, not a lot has changed.
Just seems to be more political posturing than anything.


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Look guys, go back and watch it again if you have to. But they did xray the truck, they showed the xray they had on the truck. It clearly showed what looks like a pipe bomb, CLEARLY. If you see that, then you open the truck up and inspect it. No one expects them to open every truck or container for inspection. This is really the same as someone getting their baggage xrayed at the airport, having a bomb clearly visible, and no one doing anything about it. Again, just tell me the truth, but dont make excuses, dont act like its an aberation. My god, for where the container came from, it might as well as been post marked by Bin Laden himself.

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PostIcon Posted on: Sep. 12 2003,9:22 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

I thought the xray was of the actual bag, it was the xray of the whole truck?

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The borders of the U.S. are a joke-- If you want to bring something into this country--Just walk it in. I have seen surveilance photos on a McAllen T.V. station taken by Marine heilcopters of the people crossing the border into S. Tex. Looked like a pack of rats.This is going on every night and a friend of mine on the border patrol just shakes his head and says there is no stoping them, just to damm many of them.--- by the way, the Marines don't do this any longer, two of the heilcopters crashed into each other over Falcon state park killing both crews in Jan. or Feb. Homeland security??? what a joke, like Hoosier said--Don't piss on Me and tell Me its rain.
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PostIcon Posted on: Sep. 12 2003,10:00 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

While I lived in Houston, Tx George W. wanted to put automated tripods (i.e. unmanned gun nest) that were hooked to motion detectors that would shoot in the direction of detected movement, but it never passed.
It is true that hoards of people pass through via the Rio Grande, there really is no stopping it unless we literally wall off the entire Mexico - US border.
That's just how it is.
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PostIcon Posted on: Sep. 12 2003,10:27 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Your rite Shon, All I am saying is that I am sick of these talking heads in Washington and there B.S. about homeland security when you can just walk across our borders, I also believe that if we have 87 billion to rebuild Iraq--maybe we should spend a little of that to protect our own borders. It could be done if we were not afraid of insulting the Mexico Gov. by keeping these illlegal immigrants out.
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imagine the cash we could save on welfare

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Shaker, thats the point I have been trying to make. We all know that the borders are open, if we didnt know before, we all know now that someone could basically mail a nuclear device to our country. But politics has kept the administration from being truthful about it. Who gives a sh it about politics, we will all be safer if they would just come out and tell us the truth, That our government and homeland security cannot protect us from things like ABC news did. Asa Huchinson should get his ass kicked right out of his job along with Tom Ridge, Bush will lose his job anyway come election time. History will tell, it will show the Bush 2 administration to be the most corrupt and fiscally irresposnsible in the history of our nation. I just hope we all survive the next year under these idiots supervision. Dont even get me started on John Ashcroft, this guy has no idea what the constitution or civil liberties are all about. You throw out our civil liberties, even in a time of war, and the enemy has already won, we should just surrender. This is a guy that lost an election for governor of Missouri to a dead man, so Bush figures why not give him the most powerful job in law enforcement. I just hope we never have to put up with Bush 3 in the White House. Jeb is just as stupid as his dad and older brother.

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Hoosier--I don't know what bee got into YOUR bonnet--go back and re-read my post--we AGREE on this.  The I have mentioned on the Trib. Forum and on this one for a year now how futile the efforts of the TSA and Homeland Security are--it's all eyewash.  I've tried to give the perspective of what transportation industry insiders think of the TSA and Homeland Security--not only a JOKE, but a BAD ONE at that.  Typical government reaction--everything for show--spend billions for "eyewash"--but ignore the real threat--with the "unintended consequence" of wrecking the transportation industry, wrecking the economy, and throwing hundreds of thousands out of work.

The second part of the post explains the futility of trying to obtain absolute security in the transportation industry--as I mentioned, short of acting like Nazi's, with "control checkpoints" EVERYWHERE, we CAN'T assure absolute security.  Check every cargo container on every ship coming into the U.S.?  Every vehicle and aircraft?  AS I said, even the U.S. Army isn't big enough for THAT task.  We can't even control a 1400 mile southern border.

The terrorist have succeeded in spreading TERROR--and while it is un-PC to say so, the effects of that TERROR have paralyzed and TERRIFIED the nation--far more effective than killing 3,000 people.  Government has done what governments DO--make a PRETENSE OF DOING SOMETHING.  The restrictions we have put on ourselves have done the terrorist's work FOR them.


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The Department of Homeland Security is nothing more than window dressing to pacify the simple minded heard of sheeple, as with all the 'security screening' at airports.  They do nothing to make the country safer, rather only give the illusion that it is.  The only true way to have security is to give up freedom, and surprisingly enough there are too many sheeple more than willing to do so here in this country.  Even with all the freedoms relinquished from the public in the PATRIOT Act, we are really no safer now then we were on Sept 10th 2001.

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