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Madd Max 
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Posted on: Nov. 18 2005,11:56 am |
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Six senators block new USA Patriot Act
A bipartisan group is threatening renewal of the law because it eliminates some civil liberties protections.
Jesse J. Holland, Associated Press
Last update: November 17, 2005 at 11:19 PM
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WASHINGTON - Legislation reauthorizing the Patriot Act was stalled Thursday as negotiators worked to satisfy six senators upset by the elimination of some civil liberties protections.
Negotiators had worked for days to develop an acceptable compromise and presented a draft to senators and representatives late Wednesday. But Senate negotiators have yet to agree to the compromise, aware that the six Republicans and Democrats are threatening to block the bill when it comes to the Senate for a vote.
"If further changes are not made, we will work to stop this bill from becoming law," the protesters wrote to the Senate Judiciary and Intelligence committees.
They are Republicans Larry Craig of Idaho, John Sununu of New Hampshire and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, and Democrats Dick Durbin of Illinois, Russ Feingold of Wisconsin and Ken Salazar of Colorado.
Congress is facing two deadlines -- a break set to begin this week for Thanksgiving and the fact that many parts of the Patriot Act are to expire by year's end.
House leaders had hoped to approve the compromise today; Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., told senators Thursday that they will have to address the legislation "before we leave."
Feingold, the only senator to vote against the original Patriot Act in 2001, said there are several delaying tactics available to stop the bill in the Senate. He said he had cleared his schedule through Thanksgiving, "and this time I don't think I'll be alone."
Murkowski said, "We have worked too long and too hard to allow this conference report to eliminate the modest protections for civil liberties that were agreed to unanimously in the Senate."
The six senators were the sponsors of legislation this year that would have tempered the powers of the post-Sept. 11 law that expanded the government's surveillance and prosecutorial powers.
They complained that the House-Senate compromise would take back some civil liberty protections on which senators had agreed -- including changing a Senate requirement that the government inform targets of a "sneak and peek" search warrant within seven days to 30 days. Such warrants allow police to conduct secret searches of people's homes or businesses and inform them later.
The compromise also removed a Senate proposal that would have mandated judicial reviews when authorities used the law to search financial, medical, library, school and other records, according to the six.
The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, GOP Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, said he was working to address some of the complaints.
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Grinning_Dragon
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Posted on: Nov. 20 2005,10:19 pm |
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So are you happy or disappointed?
I for one hope the Patriot Act dies a slow miserable death, this POS legislation was the biggest mistake ever concieved and enacted all on emotion, and taken straight from the Riechstag play book.
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memoria of cado frater ,Semper fidelis
*The object of war is NOT to DIE for YOUR Country, but to make the OTHER BASTARD DIE for HIS...Patton
My Constitutional Rights trump your dead.
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Ole1kanobe
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Posted on: Nov. 20 2005,10:32 pm |
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Another knee-jerk reaction law.
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Some of what is said here (myself included) is about as tolerable as listening to someone vacuum a cat.
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Wolfie
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Posted on: Nov. 20 2005,11:56 pm |
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Just like all the gun laws after some snot nosed brat shoots up a school. If the damn courts would just enforce the laws we already have on the books and refuse to let the defense lawyers spin arguements. We would be MUCH better off.
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Many good men have died to guarantee your freedoms, live your life like it was worth dying for.
I have the ability to make the 1200 meter shot, but some targets deserve the up close kill, where you can watch the life leave the eyes while the blood ebbs from the body.
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Posted on: Nov. 21 2005,6:11 am |
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The Patriot Act is one of the biggest shams yet to be dumped on the American people, a governmental faux pas so bad even Jim Hanson can't defend it.
Give up your freedoms in the name of security. Always a good idea... 
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Madd Max
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Posted on: Nov. 21 2005,6:28 am |
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| Quote (Grinning_Dragon @ Nov. 20 2005,10:19pm) | | So are you happy or disappointed? |
I think that it is time for the patriot act to expire and for this administration to stop their all out war on our civil liberties.
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MADDOG
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Posted on: Jun. 01 2015,3:34 pm |
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It hasn't made Sen. Paul too popular in Washington.
PATRIOT Act Provisions Expire
How do you like that? I even linked the All Barack Channel.
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Actually my wife is especially happy when my google check arrives each month. Thanks to douchbags like you, I get paid just for getting you worked up. -Liberal
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Posted on: Jun. 01 2015,5:05 pm |
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I like it, it should have never happened in the first place 
Sometimes being right isn't always popular. 
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