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Truth 
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Posted on: Mar. 26 2004,7:26 am |
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Liberalism requires that its subjects believe they need the government to "take care of them."
I would like to know who these new Democrats are. Don't kid yourself people like Kerry, Clinton (Mrs.) and Kennedy are all about a large governement redistributing wealth. These are the people that want to micromanage how you toast your begal. Wake up.
Our nation was fonded on individuals, strong individuals forging their own way. If you fail that's life. Demo's would would say an individuals failure is not the individuals fault, some how the government failed the individual.
New Demo's...NOT. They just have new cloths. A liberal can shop at the conservative store and buy a red tie but, they are still a liberal underneath.
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Mar. 26 2004,9:35 am |
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Truth--I agree completely your ideological beliefs. Your quote on the space program was dead on.
CWolff--your comment on "who is rich" is also right on.
Montyman--I hope you meant it as satire when you said | Quote | | who will take care of us? |
meaning either sarcasm, or "who will take care of us--the taxpayers". It could be read both ways--either way--funny!
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rosebudinal
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Posted on: Mar. 26 2004,11:47 am |
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I agree with 90% of what you all are saying. It didn't take me long to figure out the parties once I became of age to vote. Jimmy Carter did that for me. I should thank him for it and have voted republican ever since.
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cwolff
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Posted on: Mar. 26 2004,2:55 pm |
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At last a Democrat defined what rich is last night on TV. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-CA last night was asked by Mr. Cavuto at around 11:30 P.M. what is the Democrat's definition of the rich, and she stated that it is people earning a million dollars or more per year. If any one thinks that the democrats are only going to raise taxes on people making a million dollars or more if given the chance, then you are on dope!
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MrTarzan
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Posted on: Mar. 27 2004,5:43 pm |
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Oh c'mon guys and gals. That is talk just as polarizing as the "liberals" that you all seem to rail against. I grew-up in a dyed in blue Democrat house, and I have two Uncles that became Sergeant Majors in the Army, my Dad a DA, my Mom a graduate of Law Enforcement who became a agent, and a conservative financial philosophy. My mother at one point should have gotten food stamps instead letting her children (me included) go hungry because of pride. I too turned against their ideas because of Carter. I went Republican because of leadership and the ideal of confronting the cold war, not appeasing it. I was a history nut, and I knew that the world was a dangerous place. Since then, I have not voted party line on everything, and I never will. I vote for the candidate, even if they are a Democrat. I consider myself more of a Liberatarian (very different than Liberal) than Republican. However, I believe that the Democrats were, and still are, very good at identifying social needs and coming up with great ideas on what to do about social problems. What was the problem was they needed seperation. You see, in a really successful business, you have creative, and practical people working hand in hand. In social work, you have mostly creative, and they easily mismanage stuff. Democrat social workers with Republican bosses would be perfect.  People would get the programs they need, and they would be efficient.
If you Bush supporters out there want to win, and keep voters like me that don't have an elephant tatooed on our rearends, then you need to learn to win the argument, and not just spout things like TAX and Spend MO's. That is rhetoric, it works for Rush because it is in the context of entertainment, but it does not win debates.
I voted for Jesse, only to be disappointed that he did not feel like he was busy enough and had to go be a WFL star. Sometimes I am so wrong.
I vote for who I think will be best for my family and my country, not my party. So try not to make a villian out of every person that declares they are liberals or a Democrat, you isolate people that way. Look at Liberal here on the forum. He is my hero for bringing out the dirt here. He does not sound like someone that just wants to Tax and Spend either.
Liberal, I will not answer your question about why I won't support Kerry here. I will start a new thread, and you are welcome to try to change my mind. It is still a long way to election day, and GW has not been perfect. I am still pissed about the illegal thing. That does nothing to help anyone in my opinion and was only pandering to the Hispanic vote, despite polls that prove most Hispanic citizens don't agree with it.
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Be not simply good, be good for something-Henry David Thoreau
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