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Montyman 
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Posted on: Mar. 07 2004,11:42 am |
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cwolff:
are you from around here?
do you live here?
you keep talking about heron lake...
what's the deal?
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Ignorant men raise questions that wise men answered a thousand years ago. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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collector
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Posted on: Mar. 07 2004,7:12 pm |
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Read the entire thread. Is this only about Ron? I see Belshans name, Trows name, Beldens name, the word commissioners used. Out of all the elected, appointed or hired officials in the county or any other govt. entity, how many do most of the people that post here have anything good to say about them or their job? Including Ron. Someone comes in here and posts something halfway positive about subjects that you all whine about for the last 2 years incessantly and will never lay down and you don't like it. If the posts aren't about how self destructive Ron is and what a saint Belshan is and how terrible the other commissioners are or anything on Paul Sparks the only thing you post on is rumor and innuendo. Not just 2 or 3 posts on rumors but pages of posts like a bunch of busybodies. I have said many times in the last 6 months how tiring it gets to hear Minnow who complains about everything and everyone and how they are wasting his tax money, yet he doesn't live in Freeborn County? Has he ever answered anything like that? He skirts the issue. Believe it or not, I actually agree with Minnow on some things. At times he is right on the mark, but much of his posts are as negative as everyones in here. Find something good to say once in a while and lets see how active everyone is.
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| Post Number: 43
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iowegian
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Posted on: Mar. 07 2004,7:51 pm |
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| Quote (collector @ Mar. 07 2004,7:12:pm) | | Find something good to say once in a while and lets see how active everyone is. |
I'll say it's good to own a home in Northwood vs Albert Lea.
How's that for a positive attitude.
Please educate us ! Show those negative posters where they are wrong !
Keep giving your side, keep posting and ,its good to see both sides of a debate.
collector:Do you know Jean Eaton the mayor of Albert Lea?
You seem to have the same views on many things.
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| Post Number: 44
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Liberal
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Posted on: Mar. 07 2004,8:07 pm |
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I don't know why you'd be bragging about living in Northwood most people around here wouldn't live there if you gave them $5K. B.T.W. How's that "we'll pay you $5k to move here" program working out for you guys? I guess at this point you will do about anything to stop that gene pool from getting any shallower even if it means paying people to move there.
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MrTarzan
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Posted on: Mar. 07 2004,9:22 pm |
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Are they really paying people $5,000 to live there? That sounds like an urban myth.
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Mar. 08 2004,11:24 am |
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| Quote | | Out of all the elected, appointed or hired officials in the county or any other govt. entity, how many do most of the people that post here have anything good to say about them or their job? Including Ron. |
How many "elected, appointed, or hired officials" ARE there in Freeborn County and all other governmental units within the County? One hundred? Two Hundred? You don't see complaints against the County Auditor, or Environmental Services, or Ditch Inspector, or nearly any other official--nearly all are concentrated on Ron, Commissioners, Sparks, or Pam Bishop. Being department heads, I'd say that's fair--certainly they are the ones MAKING the news--why WOULDN'T they be the most discussed?
I gave you a list of Ron's transgressions--just which one's do you see as invalid--items that should not be discussed, or for which he should not be held accountable?
I agree with you, the general public doesn't often have POSITIVE things to say about their elected or appointed officials--perhaps because they EXPECT them to do the job they were hired to do.| Quote | | If the posts aren't about how self destructive Ron is and what a saint Belshan is and how terrible the other commissioners are or anything on Paul Sparks the only thing you post on is rumor and innuendo. |
Go back to the RON post--no rumor and innuendo there--very specific items. Which of those items DID NOT HAPPEN?
Think about it--even the COMEDIANS make light of and bring attention to the mistakes of others. (it has been said that "the basis of all humor is the misfortune of others!")  There's nothing wrong with being critical--it's the only way change occurs. Not acknowledging these problems is how we got in this position!
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MrTarzan
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Posted on: Mar. 08 2004,4:01 pm |
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I would rather have a negative light looking in on the government then no light at all. Left to their own mischief, they begin to think they are Lords and Ladys and we are their serfs. Keep up the chatter, good and bad, it should not scare the politicians unless they really are being naughty 
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| Post Number: 48
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sick of it
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Posted on: Mar. 08 2004,4:26 pm |
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maybe if people that are elected did their jobs per their employers wishes; which is each of us, there might not be so much bassshing of idiots in this cuonty.
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minnow fan
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Posted on: Mar. 08 2004,6:16 pm |
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| Quote (iowegian @ Mar. 07 2004,7:51:pm) | I'll say it's good to own a home in Northwood vs Albert Lea.
How's that for a positive attitude. |
I wouldn't be too thrilled to own a home in either city.
Seriously, what does Northwood have to brag about?
Worth county is losing people just about as bad as Freeborn county is.
Population 2000-2002
Worth county IA 7912 to 7766, decrease of 1.85%
Northwood city IA 2051 to 2013, decrease of 1.86%
Even your big regional center, Mason City is struggling
Cerro Gordo county IA 46,329 to 45,339, decrease of 2.14%
Mason City city IA 29,098 to 28,464, decrease of 2.18%
Oh well, at least you have more common sense down there, keep hanging your head on that.
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Even if you think the ALEDC is a good idea, do you really want to put Sparks and Bishop in charge of all the economic development in Albert Lea?
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collector
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Posted on: Mar. 09 2004,3:06 pm |
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Glad to see some more discussion here. As for Ron, I don't necessarily agree with all the things he has done. I do think he is trying. It is still the good ole boy network and reverting back to how things were done before. The sad reality is these types of things were done by previous administration people and will always be done. In the past, they were done farther apart. Ron attacks all these things in a short period of time. Did we need a new courthouse? I don't know. Was he perfectly legal to finance it the way he did? Yes. The state allows it. Many don't agree with the decision, but he did nothing illegal or underhanded on it. The provision was right there waiting for someone to use it. Would it have been nice to have a say by a vote on the issue? Probably. Did the county end up paying more in interest with the delays that happened? Yes. Whose fault is that? Is rule 19 illegal? Not according to the settlement and offer to change the language. Is it the best thing for the county the way it was? Probably not. Was it good to get it changed? Probably. If the whole rule was illegal, there wouldn't have been a settlement and the MCLU would have kept pursuing. The language is now changed to be legal. Does the current wording make everyone happy? No. Is it legal? Apparently.
As far as the comment asking if I know Jean Eaton. Sure I do. Doesn't everyone? I don't believe I sound like her. I may agree with some of the things she says, but plenty of other things I don't agree with. The library is one I don't agree with at all. The extra sales tax might be OK. Should the city hold retreats at taxpayer expense? I don't believe so. In response to the Iowa issues, if Northwood, Lake Mills or Iowa in general were better, why is Albert Lea getting the Larson Mfg distribution center and not somewhere in Iowa where the plant is? Just another example of agreeing to disagree. I don't throw barbs at people, I don't belittle them or resort to name calling in my posts. I enjoy reading and posting the few times I have done it. I also try to be respectful of others opinion and don't say anyone is wrong. I simply say I disagree from what I have seen.
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