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minnow 
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Posted on: Feb. 25 2004,1:53 pm |
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Ventura foods is saving $1,000,000 per year by building their own warehouse on sight. They were paying the JOBZ 1000K per year that that the city will not get now...PLUS we have two very large warehouses to deal with now.
That was very poor planning by Jobs...
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cpu_slave
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Posted on: Feb. 26 2004,9:56 am |
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Come on people, think!
Sparks is acting like a salesman, and he needs to sell this new library to make it work. Like any salesman, he is not going to say or do anything to blow the deal, and will go out of the way to show that his opinion is the only one.
For example, anyone with an IQ over room temp can see that other alternatives are not only better for the city, but are also cheaper. Hell, even the firm hired to do the 'study' was told up front what the desired results were and skewed the data to show exactly that pre-determined result. Now where have I seen that before...
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MrTarzan
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Posted on: Feb. 26 2004,10:20 pm |
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That might all be true cpu_slave, but if we build a new library from scratch people will just peel off the interstate to see it, the economy will take off as a result, and we will generate enough taxes to pay it all off and give everyone in city government a raise. The magic of the printed word 
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cpu_slave
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Posted on: Feb. 27 2004,11:46 am |
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| Quote (MrTarzan @ Feb. 26 2004,10:20:pm) | | if we build a new library from scratch people will just peel off the interstate to see it, the economy will take off as a result, and we will generate enough taxes to pay it all off and give everyone in city government a raise. |
Now I get it, just like the new high school and new jail are doing now. We better get started on making Bridge Street, Main and Broadway at least 8 lanes wide to accommodate all the traffic coming in! We might as well just pass that 10% sales tax increase to pay for all of this, plus the raises, a monorail, water park, casino, paving the streets with gold, and there even would be enough to give every resident a tax rebate every year! Imagine, getting paid just to ‘live’ here, and there would be a waiting list just for people wanting to move here and enjoy our success! I guess I just wasn't seeing the 'big picture'. Thanks Tarzan!
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Wise men learn more from fools than fools from wise men.- Marcus Cato
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The Advocate
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Posted on: Feb. 27 2004,6:56 pm |
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I am angry about the comments Mr. Sparks made about the unsuitability of the evacuated Walmart building stating it would be more expensive to renovate it in comparison to building a new library building. Who is he kidding? And I don't care that Mayor Eaton wants it uptown. First of all, the Walmart building is the perfect location for the new library facility. Why? Because Albert Lea is an aging community with a large portion of its' senior population living close to that area. What a wonderful thank-you for our seniors to make the library accessible to them. Exercise classes, computer education classes, generational reading and movie programs available to the old and young alike and along, leisure and diversional programs. The list is endless. The goal is to assist the elderly in staying as independent as possible and at their highest functional levels, living as independently as possible. These above mentioned programs would assist in achieving this above goal, while helping the county save big bucks on the money spent on Medicaid, in a long term care skilled Nursing facility. As an RN that has practiced geriatric nursing for 20 years, I am confident in my knowledge on this subject. I, like Mr. Hanna question the numbers and the statement that building new is cheaper but for arguments sake let's say it is correct. My proposal in the long term would save the taxpayers money related to the above arguments.
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minnow
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Posted on: Feb. 27 2004,9:19 pm |
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I agree on dis one. I think you're on to something there, but don't you see? They aren't thinking of others, they're thinking about themselves. They simply cannot envision themselves without a modern new showcase overlooking the water. A large box somehow loses its sexiness. Remember, it's more about making them feel good about themselves, than doing what's best for the little people.
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Feb. 28 2004,3:21 pm |
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Good post, Advocate.| Quote | | What a wonderful thank-you for our seniors to make the library accessible to them. Exercise classes, computer education classes, generational reading and movie programs available to the old and young alike and along, leisure and diversional programs. The list is endless. |
Canada has a program in their Arctic towns called "the accessible Arctic". They build a "box", then include the hospital, nursing home, library, school, restaurants, theatre, government offices, and even small stores all in one place.
What a use for the Walmart--Skyline Mall building. As you mention, it would become an inter-generational center--available to the old and young, a place where families can DO things together.
For seniors, they could go to the library, have lunch with their friends and family, exercise, rent entertainment, buy small convenience items, go to the theatre with family and friends, visit senior resources, medicare specialists, etc.
Of course, we COULD have built this type of all-inclusive center--IF we hadn't blown all the money on the Courthouse! 
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MrTarzan
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Posted on: Feb. 29 2004,12:15 am |
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Well we needed a new courthouse in case all the idle senior citizens get hooked on meth and go on a crime spree. It could happen ya know. Hooligans on the scooters all over town huffing paint and spraying graffitti like "Seniors RULE".
Amazingly, in Mason City, a abandoned Wal-Mart which was older than the one here, was just purchased by a College to relocate a regional campus to exactly because of how inexpensive it is to change those "box" buildings and the excellent parking that it will afford the students. They will be officially announcing it this week.
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